Fw: Big Up the P-List, yo!

[Mark Kohut]

Seconded and thirded....the plist is the best......a sense of community
better'n most "communities"...the best Reading Group ever, despite--because of!, the digressions.....

I see it as an online anarchist miracle, a dance of ideas and people's experiences/knowledge that is fun in itself and creates meaning out
of its self-orgainization. (WTF?)

I have told countless that it is one of the futures of real reading in our
attenuated attention span and noise-filled culture....

But, i'm crazy, I've been told. 

--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Carvill John <johncarvill at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Carvill John <johncarvill at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Big Up the P-List, yo!
> To: mackin.paul at verizon.net
> Cc: pynchon-l at waste.org
> Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 6:53 PM
> 
> I've been on and off this list for years now. It's a bit
> like smoking, which you're expected to give up eventually.
> Ach, lets face it, it's more like smoking dope, which we're
> expectd never even to take up, but  you get the point.
> A pleasurable habit which sometimes has its down sides, and
> which in any case your wife would rather you knock on the
> head for good. But, as possible Pynchon mate Bob Dylan said,
> in the course of his last truly great album 'Love &
> Theft' (the only Dylan album title to have included inverted
> commas in the title, how Pynchonian), "Sometimes someone
> wants you to give something up and, tears or not, it's too
> much to ask". 
> 
> What I really like about Paul's post, below, is that he
> says he's concurring with me - and he *is*, I think - his
> comments could just as easily be marshalled to make a case
> against me. Not that I had an argument to argue against in
> the first place.
> 
> But what I really mean is that I appreciate this forum for
> the opportunity it gives to a lot of multiply diverse people
> to discuss such a range of matters, either related to TRP or
> not. It doesn't get said often enough - and if it does it's
> by p-list stalwart and all-round Voltarian good egg Dave
> Monroe - but we would all, surely, be the poorer for the
> loss of this list. Which seems like small potatoes in the
> 'my latest pearl of wisdom' stakes; but which also means we
> would all be the poorer for the loss of each other, dunnit?
> 
> So - big up y'self, all merry p-lister folk. A-and, ask
> y'sel'.............
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > I would very much concur with the above.
> >
> > IV is a pastiche combining the hardboiled detective
> story with the doper
> > genre or flick. The author has to be selective, so
> that one form doesn't
> > detract from the other. The detecive has to maintain
> his mental acuity a
> > good deal of the time or what would be the point. On
> the other hand, what
> > would be the 70s without a lot of drug participation
> and talk.
> >
> > Or, another way of looking at it, the hardboiled
> detective is a decendent
> > of the pulps. Writers got paid by the word. so of
> course there is a lot of
> > filler. But more importantly action packed writing has
> to be paced--slowed
> > down in other words. The reason Marlow seems to be
> reaching for the rye so
> > often is the same reason he keeps reaching for a lucky
> (or whatever he
> > smokes)--that being to pace the action. Not to get him
> drunk, but to give
> > the reader a chance to absorb the story at a
> manageable pace.
> >
> > Come to think of it, Doc reaches for a Kool almost as
> often as he reaches
> > for a joint.
> >
> > P
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