IVIV (0) Basterds

[Doug Millison]

I'm with Rich on this one wrt the topic, and having met and talked  
with him about Pynchon and many other topics I'm certain he wasn't  
putting down any p-lister with this note.

Maybe Pynchon finds a good middle ground, avoids exploiting the  
Holocaust for cheap thrills, in the way he builds GR around the scene  
where Pokler goes into the hellhole and sees the suffering he's been  
trying to ignore.  I never got the feeling that Pynchon was using that  
suffering to achieve the kind of effect that this new movie seems to  
be after.

By the way, where's the Vietnam War in IV?  I'll be watching closely  
on my 2nd time through, but the War seemed to manifest mainly in the  
form of marijuana smoke in IV.  Remind me of what I'm forgetting or  
missed in the first place.

rich:
nope. I wouldn't presume to know that about anyone. In a nutshell, I  
am just wondering why someone would make a movie about Jews acting
like Nazis, copying, mirroring in fact acts of appalling brutality-- 
carving of symbols in flesh, burning a group of people
alive-things the Germans did all too often during the war. I wonder if  
those who suffered thru it w/ find these acts funny. (The
Einsatzgruppen in Come and See are laughing and cheering, too amidst  
mass murder) Not to mention a movie where you almost feel sorry for  
the Nazis as
victims--that's just so wrong. It goes beyond the actual movie itself  
or Tarantino (who is coming from the genre angle and hardly cares  
about the history) for that matter--just the American/Hollywood  
portrayal of something that can never really be portrayed faithfully  
(tho Come and See comes close) In summary, all I'm saying is to look  
upon IB as nothing more than porn (Eli Roth has said as much) I sure  
as heck didn't feel much uplift from watching people being burnt  
alive--QT may think of it as provocative; I think its pretty sad.  
maybe i'm thinking too much about one dumb hollywood film