Guess you Had to be there

Natália Maranca nmaranca at gmail.com
Thu Aug 6 12:10:49 CDT 2009


Those of you who did like it, do you find it better than Vineland?
Because I really don't like Vineland, never managed to finish it...

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Robin Landseadel <
robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:

> It helps enormously to understand just how close Manhattan Beach is to
> Watts and what sort of possible permutations and combinations that proximity
> provides. As Pynchon is apt to note, there's a weird force-field keeping the
> two at arms length, even though Watts is just one freshly matched Kool away
> from Manhattan Beach.
> On Aug 6, 2009, at 9:14 AM, rich wrote:
>
>  All--
>>
>> I think IV is best at giving a sense of place, there seems to be more
>> of an awareness unlike any of the previous books I would argue (If
>> Pynchon could recreate places he's never been so successfully one
>> can't be surprised at what he can do for places he's been in!)
>>
>
> No Baedekers necessary.
>
>  Vineland has that, too but he's tackling a major American metropolitan
>> city this time out (landmarks are important, street names, freeways,
>> so forth)
>>
>
> Nothing that can't be sussed out via Google maps. Thank you ARPA, thank you
> TRW, thank you Howard Hughes, thank you Eisenhower.
>
>  and I think that's the problem for me--I never felt connected to this
>> book--it wasn't the lightness, the vulgarity, the cartoony goofballs,
>> the paranoia (hell, that's in all his books), the push pull of the
>> straight world and the counterculture...
>>
>
> . . . and what about that all important question—is this gonna be a bust?
>
>  I felt like an outsider, peering in. don't know if that makes a lick of
>> sense.
>>
>
> Sho' nuff. Never had a Tommyburger? [nudge ,nudge, wink, wink, say no more,
> say no more.]
>
>  still musing, more later perhaps
>> Rich
>>
>
> And now, Raymond Raquello and his orchestra in a snappy arrangement of Eine
> blasse Wäscherin:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa1i375FuGw
>



-- 
Natália Maranca
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