Fwd: Editing Pynchon?

[Tofuman]

dang, I did it again!

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From: Tofuman <slowdrop at gmail.com>
Date: Aug 7, 2009 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Editing Pynchon?
To: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>


OK, I'm that person whose identity David is trying to protect but who
actually is just stupid sending reply to one person thinking he's
replying to the list mail.

Sorry for the confusion, David.

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From: Tofuman <slowdrop at gmail.com>
Date: Aug 7, 2009 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: Editing Pynchon?
To: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>


If you assume the correspondence between the ceiling murals and
novels, than you can consider whether sketches correspond to edits.
Otherwise my comment is a nonsense.

And regarding to a comment from Robin, I think edit is more like a
plastic surgery, improving the appearance according to an editor's
standards (or can I say the time's), whereas restoration is more like,
well, restorative surgery like, say, reconstructing your ears after
somebody biting them off.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:26 AM, David Morris<fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> And do ceiling murals correspond to fat, sprawling novels?
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Tofuman<slowdrop at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't think sketches correspond to edits.
>


On 8/7/09, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Offlist a P-lister questioned whether edit and sketches are the same.
> I'm making my answer public, but I don't mind further offlist
> responses from that person.  I'll just keep his/her identity private:
>
> There are certainly correspondences between sketches and edits.
> Editing text can happen over and over again until the work is made
> public.  It can grow or shrink in size.  Parts can be eliminated
> entirely and no one will ever know they were there once made public.
> Similarly once a mural is painted, it can be painted over again and
> again, re-plastered and refrescoed, until the image is unveiled.  So
> for all we know the Sistine Chapel was thus edited before its
> unveiling.
>
> Also, editing does not always come from another party.  Artists are
> supposed to be self-editing.  And authors don't always accept editors
> suggestions
>
> Sketches are to murals as notes, outlines, sheets & drafts are to
> novels.  Sketches contemplate at various levels of scale and detail
> the ultimate entire work, just as the preliminary elements of a novels
> do.  Not all sketches make it into the final image.  They are edited
> out, or rearranged.  Sketches are decidedly part of the editing
> process of a final image.
>
> David Morris
>