The Fall of the House of Labor AtD.93 Republicans?

[Mark Kohut]

We have to sort out two levels of "reading' AtD......
as the now-missing Campbel Morgan [sic] argued, there are whole
swaths of writers and traditions and ways of illuminating AtD that can and will be written. Ways of seeing and placing....
As there has been on Moby-Dick and Melville.

And there are also TRP's encoded influences, which we have to discover
carefully, eyes on the text(s).......

To argue for the Emerson within Pynchon is NOT the same as to show
that the phrase 'eyeball of society' comes directly from "Nature"..

and so much more.....

Also, I think that you alicewellintown are right about the science and math
in AtD, as I've argued: it is satirized (albeit presented accurately). Made fun of; it is mostly, if we could "get" it all--and that is coming----
as funny in ultimate meaning as some of P's food scenes, or characters.....
imho.
as funny

--- On Sun, 8/9/09, alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: The Fall of the House of Labor AtD.93 Republicans?
> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 12:03 PM
> What was America in 1492 but a
> Loose-Fish, in which Columbus struck
> the Spanish standard by way of wailing it for his royal
> master and
> mistress? What was Poland to the Czar? What Greece to the
> Turk? What
> India to England?
> 
> ***What at last will Mexico be to the United States? ***
> 
> All Loose-Fish.  What are the Rights of Man and the
> Liberties of the
> World but Loose-Fish? What all men's minds and opinions
> but
> Loose-Fish? What is the principle of religious belief in
> them but a
> Loose-Fish? What to the ostentatious smuggling verbalists
> are the
> thoughts of thinkers but Loose-Fish? What is the great
> globe itself
> but a Loose-Fish? And what are you, reader, but a
> Loose-Fish and a
> Fast-Fish, too?
> 
> Tony Tanner's Introduction to Moby-Dick, available onlie,
> is a great
> Introduction to Pynchon's AtD.
> 
> The Mexican–American War was an armed conflict between
> the United
> States and Mexico from 1846 to 1848 in the wake of the 1845
> U.S.
> annexation of Texas. Mexico claimed ownership of Texas as a
> breakaway
> province and refused to recognize the secession and
> subsequent
> military victory by Texas in 1836.
> 
> In the very famous passage above, Melville voices his
> political stance
> on the War on Mexico and the Imperial American Empire.
> He even, as we have learned, critiques his own
> father-in-law; a
> powerful man who supported Melville.
> 
> It's not that Pynchon never includes these kinds of
> critiques in his
> novels. He does. They are often quite cryptic. Not as overt
> as
> Melville's critique of the Texas-Mexico agression, more
> like the
> critique that Melville levels against his benefactors and
> supporters,
> against Emerson and Transcendentalism  ....when we
> read the the letter
> from Melville I posted and we read Moby-Dick on the
> Pantheists and on
> the navel gazing utopians we can unravel his critique, but
> it is not
> on the surface, we have to dive deep.
> The same with Pynchon. When we see Waite we think Tarot,
> but we need
> to look to Waite, governer of Colorado. It's a big onion.
> The Onion, a free satire of current affairs and events may
> be a layer.
> I'm not saying it is, but it's possible and I'm listening
> to anyone
> who wants to argue (not in the axe to grind sense) that it
> is. George
> Washington Cable, Frank Norris and Ryder Naturalism to
> Jackson
> Pollack.  Piss and Paint and Film. It's all in this
> Whale of a Book.
> 
>