Did Dylan rip off Pynchon?

[Natália Maranca]

"At 8/12/2009 03:18:00
PM<http://ralphriver.blogspot.com/2009/08/more-dylan-thefts-ii-rollins-pynchon.html#c3760896152074678222>,
[image: Blogger] Jim
Janknegt<http://www.blogger.com/profile/02971229049336038270>said...

Any chance he has a really good memory for literary images and just sort of
absorbs them to be regurgitated later without any conscience knowledge of
the source? There is no doubt he is incredibly imaginative. Imagination has
to be feed. As Picasso said, "Great artists don't borrow, they steal."

Paul Mccartney said once that what he feared the most about writing lyrics
was accidentally stealing them from somebody else (or something, I can't
remember the exact quote), and I have this feeling while writing too. I
don't think Bob Dylan would ever outrightly copy whole passages like this.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Carvill John <johncarvill at hotmail.com>wrote:

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> The question of whether Bob DYlan & THomas Pynchon are friends,
> acquaintences, or total strangers has long fascinated me (if not this list).
> As we know, despite all the pop-cultural and 60s musical references,
> especially in Vineland and now in Inherent Vice, it's something of a notable
> absence that no explicit mention has ever been made of Dylan.
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> Now, any Dylan fan will know that there's a controversy been brewing for
> several years now about Bob's unattributed use of otehr writers' words,
> notably on Love & Theft and in his Chronicles Vol 1 'memoir'. Too big a
> topic to go into. Well, here's a new twist - one of the alleged sources of
> Bob's, er, inspiration, catalogued in this most recent batch, is Pynchon:
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> http://ralphriver.blogspot.com/2009/08/more-dylan-thefts-ii-rollins-pynchon.html
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> Here are the relevant passages:
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> Thomas Pynchon, Gravity's Rainbow, p. 529
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> "...cast-iron flowers on spiral vine all painted white..."
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> Bob Dylan, Chronicles, p. 58:
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> "There were some iron flowers on a spiral vine painted white leaning in the
> corner"
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> Let the reader decide...
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Natália Maranca
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