re. Beatles/Stones

Carvill John johncarvill at hotmail.com
Sat Aug 15 04:30:17 CDT 2009


Nice post, Kai. I absolutely disagree with most of what you say! But I appreciate the trouble you took in saying it.


> And though "St.Pepper" has a really nice artwork plus this one (final) supersong, I find it hard to believe that most people back then found it essentially superior to "Their Satanic Majesties Request"


Heh. It blows my mind that anybody could prefer 'Satanic Majesties'.


There's no denying the Stones made some really solid albums - personally I would cite Exile, Let it Bleed, Beggar's Banquet, maybe STicky FIngers. But overall I find the thought of them very depressing, and they seem overwhelmingly one-dimensional to me. Obviously they, like the Beatles, have their plus and minus points, but I find the Stones' minus points ruin them for me. That ridiculous posturing, cultivating the bad boy 'dangerous' image, I mean get the fuck out of here. And two words: Mick Jagger. Yeugggh! Three words: Mick Jagger's voice. [Here I self-edited out a bit more whining about the band members, particularly Bill Wyman who I once saw in Manchester city centre looking immeasurable glum.]


Um, sorry. I'll start again. To me, preferring the Stones to teh Beatles is a bit like Laura MIller at Salon preferring Pynchon wannabes like Neal Stephenson to Pynchon.


When Mark said...
>I always took the Stones/Beatles question as one about kind of music, not
a real judgment of who's better.


...I thnk he was onto something. The Beatles and The Stones *did* make different kinds of music. It's just that the Beatles' kind of music was better!


Ah, the old Beatles vs. Stones debate. Long may it run. Funny enough I watched a DVD of 'Hard Day's Night' last night (or most of it, the wife eventually calling me away to watch True Blood again. Ah, that Sookie Stackhouse...) and you watch the Beatles and you just *love* them. How could anyone ever feel that for teh STones?


A-and, just that one pause, in 'Can't Buy Me Love', that pause between 'I don't care too' and 'much for money', that pause alone is worth more than the Stones' whole catalogue.


A-a-and - finally - The Beatles would never have hired those rancid fucks the Hells Angels to handle 'security' at their concert.


CheersJ









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