Woodstock

[Otto]

One should add Woodstock to the timeline, how neatly it fits:

August 8, 1969 - Manson Tate murders
August 15-18, 1969 - Woodstock
December,  1969 -  Manson & Co. arrested
December 1969 - Altamont Concert
June 1970 - January 1971  - Manson trial

So when the festival took place nobody had the idea yet that the
Tate/La Bianca-murders had anything to do with any hippies, but the
"killing" of "the good name of the hippies" had already been done, it
was only a question of time. But the truth is that Manson was no
hippie at all but a typical product of the American juridical system.
But on the other hand he's a perfect example for the fact how easily
the hippie-movement could be abused.

2009/8/16 Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>:
> You're right,  John.  IV is not particularly  nostalgic if you weren't there
> because the names and places are not the ones which have continued on in our
> collective media-induced memory (Manson excepted).     It was nostalgic for
> me in a very distinct sense,   but it in no way "covered the times,"  as you
> point out.  IV takes place in the late hippie era and imo,  Manson & company
> killed the good name of the hippies.  This book is not about the peace and
> love that defined the hippies of 1965 (or so) to 1969/70.  This is the
> aftermath.  (Yes,  there was a funeral in effigy in SF in September (?) 1967
> but that just turned the interest higher for a  while - not necessarily a
> good thing.)
>
> I remember that in 1967/'68 I went around in my fringe jacket and barefoot
> and people stared but they didn't say or do anything - many smiled.   After
> Manson,  in 1969 or '70,  my hubby was walking across the street from a
> parking lot and jumped over a curb thingie with his arms outstretched.  The
> fringe on his jacket scattered out and it was really beautiful to me.
> However,  this man who was coming out of a store front there saw him and
> literally ran in fear.   That's what Manson did to the hippies (or whatever
> we were).   The term Hippie went from being a kind of funny but
> controversial label to a seriously bad thing to be.
>
> August 8, 1969 - Manson Tate murders
> December,  1969 -  Manson & Co. arrested
> December 1969 - Altamont Concert
> June 1970 - January 1971  - Manson trial
>
>
> Bekah
> http://web.mac.com/bekker2/
>
> On Aug 16, 2009, at 12:09 AM, John Bailey wrote:
>
>> 3. Where are all of those Popular Trademarked Sixties Nostalgic
>> Milestones? Woodstock, the Moon Landing, etc? Apart from the Manson
>> murders, IV pretty much seems to stick to surface streets, dropping
>> names that might have slipped off the grid, or require a bit of
>> memory-nudging or research to catch. It's not a nostalgic novel in the
>> sense that it just namechecks the usual suspects; although it might be
>> nostalgic towards a particular seam of 60s/70s America that isn't
>> captured by your usual commercial Today in History retrospective. Or
>> is it? I came in a decade or so late and half a world away.
>
>