IVIV Sportello

[Paul Mackin]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rich" <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
To: "Mark Kohut" <markekohut at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Doug Millison" <dougmillison at comcast.net>; "John Carvill" 
<johncarvill at gmail.com>; "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: IVIV Sportello


>i wonder why Pynchon didn't play up the snitch angle in Doc's history
> in the book--it would go a long way in explaining his effort to help
> folks like Coy and Hope, no?

That limo guy (forget his name suspects Doc) and Bigfoot tempts him with the 
prospect.

While Doc is unturned, I don't think he's overly concerned with the ethics 
of snitchdom, but more its dangers for Coy and the desire to see Amythist's 
father returned to her.

P

<markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> We know that penance is a subtle theme stream in AtD....
>> and we all remember Karmic Adjustment from Vineland.
>>
>> It is also clear from the video backstory that Doc is self-consciously
>> aware of his past....he says that now, making less money, he
>> has 'less karmic hassle' and "less guilt-tripping".....
>>
>> This set-up of Doc as Inherent Vice begins seems to matter. Doc's 
>> 'working
>> both sides', betraying some folks for the cops, reminds me of the Pynchon
>> leitmotif of spying, double agents, everywhere in his fiction. Human
>> betrayal.
>>
>> But for a time now, that glorious period (?), Doc has NOT been that.
>>
>> --- On Wed, 8/19/09, John Carvill <johncarvill at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: John Carvill <johncarvill at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: IVIV Chandler
>>> To: "Doug Millison" <dougmillison at comcast.net>
>>> Cc: "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>> Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 12:02 PM
>>> >
>>> >> He never hit anybody
>>> >> up with that syringe, but he carried it and used
>>> it as a threatening
>>> >> visual aid.
>>> >
>>> > And that makes him a nice guy?  It makes him a
>>> bully at best.
>>>
>>> No, I'm not saying it makes him nice. I'm saying, the video
>>> seems to
>>> fill in more background on Doc, some of it 'negative', eg.
>>> helping
>>> cops with shakedown schemes. That's already been pointed
>>> out. My point
>>> was, even without the video, we know Doc as some sort of
>>> skip tracer,
>>> which does not have overwhelmingly 'positive' connotations
>>> in itself.
>>>
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