IVIV "Under the paving stones, the beach", Debord

[Dave Monroe]

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Richard Fiero<rfiero at gmail.com> wrote:

> We will see if the epigraph of IV actually leads to the Situationist
> International.  If it does, it also leads to Dada and counter-cultural
> activity in the arts as basically healing and cleansing.
> Now the list seems to only know of the Sixties in terms of Beatles and
> Stones. Consider the similarities to the dada period -- youth against war
> and energized into new art forms often in a kind of combat against the
> audience. We can expect those of an authoritarian stripe to leave in
> disgust. No loss.
>
> Zurich sometime in 1915 or so.  Lenin to the dadaist Huelsenbeck:
> " . . . I don't know how radical you are or how radical I am. I am certainly
> not radical enough; that is, one must always try to be as radical as reality
> itself . . ."
>
> Breton wrote: "A monstrous aberration makes people believe that language was
> born to facilitate their natural relations."
>
> Another usage:
> UNDER THE PAVING STONES, REDONDO BEACH: Post '68 French Cinema in the 80s
> and 90s
> http://www.experimentalconversations.com/articles/185/under-the-paving-stones-redondo-beach-post-68-fr/

Thanks!  Thoug perhaps the two moments--WWI Eurpe and May '68, Dada
and the SI--resonate in a "both ... and ..." rather than an eiither/or
way here?  Nevertheless, I'm all for historicization here, though, of
course, the history we might be most productively concerned with is
not so much that of the characters and events et al. in Pynchon's
texts, than of his texts themselves, and how context/s interact/s with
text, though Pynchon, I think, quite knowingly sets as many resonances
off as possible ...