IVIV cultural context: Marlowe/Doc

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Sunshine State also had a whole substory about rampant real estate
greed in Florida

John Sayles's ''Sunshine State,'' a spacious American epic that
examines the world of Delrona Beach, a fictional Florida seacoast town
in the throes of development. But as the movie widens its scope, it
evokes the ugly flip side of nature on a leash: strip malls, fast-food
outlets, environmental destruction, the uprooting of stable
communities and the Disneyfication of history. The deeper the movie
delves into the forces that threaten to tear apart this nondescript
town somewhere south of Jacksonville, the more Delrona Beach looms as
a microcosm of not only Florida but also the United States wherever
greedy developers stake their claims in the name of progress.

On 8/20/09, kelber at mindspring.com <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
> Meant to mention this sooner, but IV reminded me of the John Sayles movie
> Silver City (2004).  Good-natured, goofy investigator working for the wrong
> people turns up stuff they want hidden.
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> Review here:
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> http://www.reelviews.net/php_review_template.php?identifier=1289
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> "Although there's a lot of politics in Silver City, this is first and
> foremost a detective story. Since Sayles is the man behind the camera,
> however, don't expect any car chases or other typical action sequences.
> Danny's investigation is all about procedure, and peeling back the layers of
> corruption to reveal deeper secrets. There are no real shocks; dead people
> don't suddenly turn up alive and any smoking gun has long since rusted under
> the waters that have flooded most of the silver mines. But there's solid
> character development, some interesting subplots (such as the developer
> trying to get the zoning board to approve his petition to turn a tract of
> questionable land into a planned community and the plight of illegal
> immigrants who end up trapped in a cycle of forced labor), and a nicely
> understated romance (between Danny and Nora) to spice things up."
>
> Laura
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>>Sent: Aug 20, 2009 2:03 PM
>>To: Doug Millison <dougmillison at comcast.net>
>>Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>Subject: Re: IVIV cultural context:  Marlowe/Doc
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>>I like it. Pynchon turns Marlowe inside it and slyly suggests the hidden
>>subtext of The Big Sleep.
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>>No real way to make a connection 'tween in the texts, don't think, but a
>> nice spec based on the time-changed era, so to speak.
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>>--- On Thu, 8/20/09, Doug Millison <dougmillison at comcast.net> wrote:
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>>> From: Doug Millison <dougmillison at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: IVIV cultural context:  Marlowe/Doc
>>> To: "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>> Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 1:15 PM
>>> The pussy-eating is pretty much,
>>> well, in your face, in IV, isn't it.   Maybe
>>> that's some of the "filth" Marlowe is
>>> investigating in The Big Sleep?
>>> Mark:
>>> IV as spoof-homage? my first reading.
>>> Rational Marlowe vs. Doper Doc
>>> Tough world  vs. low intensity one
>>> Macho marlowe   vs. Pussy-eating Doc
>>> Bad Boy Marlowe  vs. All-Hangs-Out Doc
>>>
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