Love in IV/VL

[Mark Kohut]

> Kai,
> 
> Thanks. I keep wavering on how much I believe my embodiment
> thesis. We do know P, as in your post, believes in "love". I
> keep thinking that the other refutation of my embodiment
> thesis is TRPs review of Love in the Time of Solitude, or
> Marquez in general. Whose books are full of undying love--as
> a value.
> 
> Maybe it will take another reading by me. Zoyd, as a
> character in a comic novel is NOT meant to be "normal" also
> goes the argument.
> 
> Mark
> 
> --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>
> > Subject: Love in IV/VL
> > To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> > Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 9:17 AM
> > 
> > "Love never faileth ..." (1 Corinthians 13.8: King
> Bong
> > Bible)
> > 
> > 
> > ... all those embittered and cynical remarks about
> love
> > (not to speak of
> > marriage: Hey Tom, everything alright with Melanie?)
> in
> > Inherent Vice ...
> > I wonder what happened to Pynchon in the 1960s ...
> Seems,
> > since the motif
> > had already been there before but now got emphasized
> up to
> > the dust jacket's
> > synopsis, that some tricky lady took advantage of him
> and
> > later on did
> > let him fall ...
> > 
> > 
> > Mark Kohut:
> > 
> > >
> > > That ZOYD will not get over Frenesi, is the
> embodiment
> > of his being stuck
> > > in the past, imho. C'mon, it is decades; his
> 'love' is
> > not dependent on
> > > what he learns about her character; about the way
> she
> > treats him.
> > > Most normal people's 'love' is, over time.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Now, Freud would describe Zoyd's way as "the
> stickyness of
> > the libido". I'd
> > guess, the high-school girls Zoyd is dating give him
> > sometimes a good blow-job,
> > but can they fulfil his emotional needs? And then Z
> & F
> > got a kid which makes
> > the situation more complex. So I don't buy Mark's
> > 'embodiment-thesis'. Also
> > think that Frenesi certainly qualifies as a MILF. The
> "M"
> > in it is debatable.
> > 
> > 
> > " ... the greatest (...) IS love." (1 Corinthians
> 13.8:
> > King Bong Bible)
> > 
> > Neither of Christian nor of Buddhist faith, no belief
> in
> > hope; yet I'll
> > praise and defend love at any possible time.
> 'Spiritual'
> > love, parental love,
> > friendly love, sexual love. This next song, which I
> > dedicate to Kirsten, can
> > be found on the Lovesexy record ... great tour, btw,
> ah
> > Millerntor/Hamburg 1988,
> > the whole crowd hands up in the air, singing along
> the
> > refrain of 'Anastasia':
> > "Love is God/God is Love/Boys & Girls love God
> above
> > ...", a-and then Prince
> > stepped forward to the edge of the stage, saying:
> "THIS is
> > the real reason why
> > I'm here!" Too neo-hippiesque for YOU?
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO09X3VkteA
> > 
> > Yours in love,
> > Kai
> > 
> 
> 
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