Re: IVIV (1) "Uphill and invisible… p4

John Bailey sundayjb at gmail.com
Fri Aug 28 21:14:08 CDT 2009


I like this very much too, although I wouldn't use the word
'consciousness' but something else. Not sure what. P doesn't exactly
anthropomorphise everything (except sometimes, and then often in a
jokey way). But I do think he holds as much ambivalent affection for
the non-human as he does for the human.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Mark Kohut<markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I like this except I would change, "humans aren't the most important" to
> "the human is the most important"...all that animism is why we are human, imho.
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> --- On Fri, 8/28/09, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> From: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: IVIV (1) "Uphill and invisible… p4
>> To: "John Carvill" <johncarvill at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "Doug Millison" <dougmillison at comcast.net>, "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 12:34 PM
>> another one of Pynchon's great
>> insight into the animate/inanimate dispensation
>>
>> Pynchon's work imbues a consciousness to everything under
>> the sun--not
>> just humans but animals, storms, molecules, and yes, steel
>> and
>> automobiles
>> humans aren't the most important thing in Pynchon's world
>> and
>> therefore a possible insight into why some think his
>> characterizations
>> of people rather thin--his universe is just too wide (and
>> expansive)
>> stones and wind, and lightning, and rats, and inanimate
>> ducks are all equal
>> IV is very human-centric if u will and instances of that
>> expansive
>> weltanschauung like this passage are those little nuggets I
>> find most
>> appealing
>>
>> rich
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:45 AM, John Carvill<johncarvill at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> "Uphill and invisible, traffic out on the
>> boulevard to and from the freeway
>> >> uttered tuneful exhaust phrases which went echoing
>> out to sea, where the
>> >> crews of oil tankers sliding along hearing them,
>> could have figured it for
>> >> wildlife taking care of nighttime business on an
>> exotic coast." p4
>> >
>> > Yes, beautiful.
>> >
>> > You could almost see those cars as hungry babies,
>> crying out to the
>> > mother ship, bringing vital supplies of oil.
>> >
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