A Question about IV

rich richard.romeo at gmail.com
Sun Aug 30 22:41:33 CDT 2009


learning alot of interesting tangential info (a noted p-list quality)
for that I thank you all
still wondering a bit how all of it gels with IV the story
but we are in the early innings so I'm ever hopeful for more
keep it coming y'all

p.s. I saw this guy on Booknotes this weekend talking about Chandler,
Hammett and alot of the skullduggery goings on in LA in the 20s and
30s which underpinned alot of what would become those classic noir
stories:

Richard Rayner presents a history of Los Angeles in the 1920's by
examining the lives of Leslie Young, a crime scene investigator and
Dave Clark a prosecutor in the Los Angeles District Attorney's office.
 The two men were involved in several of the early "trials of the
century" including the St. Francis Dam disaster and the murder of Ned
Doheny, son of oil baron, E.L. Doheny at the time one of the richest
men in the world.  This event was hosted by the Los Angeles Public
Library

http://www.booktv.org/Program/10706/A+Bright+and+Guilty+Place+Murder+Corruption+and+LAs+Scandalous+Coming+of+Age.aspx

rich


On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Mark Kohut<markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Rich,
>
> Your original posts aren't always coming through to me--I guess I'm clogging my own pipeline with my constant posts about IV, smile---but
> i will only say: I know you did not think much of IV. You and others
> may be right-on--at the last stage of judgment which James said came
> after understanding, as one of Alice's earlier avatars posted. Even this fanboy has some problems. And even this fanboy says it is lesser than most 'cause limited in what can be embodied by the genre.
>
> But, the case I would make for attempted understanding is that this book,
> like many an artist's slight or failed books, still reveals. TRP SEES in certain ways, patterns and it is fun to find them. I think anyway.
>
> --- On Sun, 8/30/09, Doug Millison <dougmillison at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Doug Millison <dougmillison at comcast.net>
>> Subject: re: A Question about IV
>> To: "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 7:32 PM
>> Rich, I guess I'm just acting on
>> reflex.  IV was fun for me the first time through,
>> baffling in some ways, and I know from past experience with
>> his books that when I ig in and read it closely, there's a
>> lot going on.  This is one of the ways I learned to
>> read, in the French department at Berkeley, in the
>> traditional explication du texte you go through and look up
>> all the words and references, and examine the sentence and
>> paragraph structures, etc. etc., it seems a natural enough
>> way to engage a text.
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