Do also see the 'Venus in Furs' intro by Deleuze. Kai > > On Dec 7, 2009, at 11:02 AM, rich wrote: > >> 305--307 >> Notice that throughout Shasta and Doc's S&M bit, Shasta plays the >> submissive role but is actually controlling Doc. > > Someone into S & M used to be one of my best pals. He said the bottom > always was in control. And so it goes . . . >