IVIV (11) 175 Re Kraft bags

Joe Allonby joeallonby at gmail.com
Tue Dec 8 09:50:28 CST 2009


I believe that was NaBisCo

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Page <page at quesnelbc.com> wrote:
> Didn't the Kraft family sell the Kraft Company to Phillip Morris (or one of
> the other tobacco conglomerates)? It strikes me that the parent company sold
> tobacco, Miller beer, and Kraft imitation food. A well-rounded healthy diet.
> Made for Sunday afternoon NFL.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Allonby" <joeallonby at gmail.com>
> To: "Mark Kohut" <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "P-list" <pynchon-l at waste.org>; "Michael Bailey"
> <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:17 AM
> Subject: Re: IVIV (11) 175 Re Kraft bags
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>> The Kraft family owns Kraft foods, makers of many highly-processed
>> "cheese-food products". They also own the New England Patriots footbal
>> team and a large chunk of Foxborough Massachusetts.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraft_process
>>>
>>> Kraft paper is paper produced by the kraft process from wood pulp. It is
>>> strong and relatively coarse. Kraft paper is usually a brown colour but can
>>> be bleached to produce white paper. It is used for paper grocery bags,
>>> multiwall sacks, envelopes and other packaging.
>>>
>>> This is all I know.....as a process, kraft is often not capitalized yet
>>> sometimes is. As above. Dunno nothing about Mr. Kraft.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Joe Allonby <joeallonby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Joe Allonby <joeallonby at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: IVIV (11) 175 Re Kraft bags
>>>> To: "Mark Kohut" <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>>>> Cc: "P-list" <pynchon-l at waste.org>, "Michael Bailey"
>>>> <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 1:12 PM
>>>> I believe that Bob Kraft has always
>>>> capitalized his last name. Even
>>>> before he owned the food company or the stadium. Or the
>>>> football team.
>>>>
>>>> I always thought it was "craft" paper.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Seems kraft, which later earned a capitalization, is a
>>>> material:
>>>> >
>>>> > Vi Stock: The bags shall be made of unbleached 100%
>>>> kraft (sulfate) pulp with
>>>> > the ... The physical requirements for kraft bags are
>>>> as shown in the following
>>>> > ...
>>>> >
>>>> > From a book in Google Book Search.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> From: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
>>>> >> Subject: Re: IVIV (11) 175
>>>> >> To: "P-list" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>>> >> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 8:59 AM
>>>> >> > - I don't know what is a #66
>>>> >> market bag. I may refer to a shop's name, an
>>>> >> > old chain-store firm?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://kraftbag.com/
>>>> >>
>>>> >> there is just a list of all the bag sizes on this
>>>> page,
>>>> >> I was hoping for some history since "kraft paper"
>>>> is
>>>> >> that heavy duty stuff they make bags from, and
>>>> there
>>>> >> probably was somebody named Kraft who invented
>>>> them.
>>>> >> But there is a size 66 listed.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> --- "Bearing in mind that either I don't know
>>>> >> or it'll be my ass if I tell you, what is it,
>>>> man?" - Coy
>>>> >> Harlingen
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
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