IV Chapter 18 Thoughts

[Joseph Tracy]

On Dec 14, 2009, at 12:24 AM, Robin Landseadel wrote:

> On Dec 13, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Joseph Tracy wrote:
>
>> I Don't agree that this is murder . Murder is premeditated. This  
>> is self defense. 2 professional killers are in the process of  
>> murdering Doc and he turns their weapons against them. He does not  
>> know when Puck will revive and renew his assault or where AP is in  
>> the building. Under the circumstances Puck is a direct and  
>> immediate threat to his life until he is killed.
>>
>> This is an example of anarchist justice in a direct confrontation  
>> with a sociopathic hired criminal.
>
>  Both A.P. and Puck have attached German symbols—is this pointing  
> to the 1940's "Justifiable War"/"Last Good War?"
>
> So much of IV consists of an overlay of Noir conventions from the  
> time of the "Last Good War."
Good Point. He could also be pointing to the inherent fascism and  
criminality corrupting the American experiment in self governance and  
the adoption of/cooperation with such tactics by agencies sworn to  
defend the law.

I simply can't condemn or call it murder when someone defends  
themselves from another person intent on killing them.

I have no gun, and am a quaker intent on living a non-violent life.  
As you can see from my post on Obama's Nobel speech I abhor war and  
Obama's shitty arguments for it. But I think there is a difference in  
the moral position of an aggressor and someone who defends themselves  
from aggression.