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[Humberto Torofuerte]

I mean think about it...for all the money spent producing this movie,
we could've invaded another country!

On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Thomas Beshear <tbeshear at insightbb.com> wrote:
> I don't doubt it; I've known some members of the military and they have a
> wide spread of political opinions. But ads like the one I saw are promoting
> a type of military culture that's potentially dangerous to democracy.
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Allonby" <joeallonby at gmail.com>
> To: "Thomas Beshear" <tbeshear at insightbb.com>
> Cc: "Joseph Tracy" <brook7 at sover.net>; "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 12:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Avatar
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> Don't mistake the commercials and the TV coverage of "heroes" for
> reality. I'm constantly surrounded by "military types". The sterotype
> is unfair. A buzzcut does not equal a lobotomy. Don't forget Veterans
> Against the War and similar organizations that are springing up today.
> Combat veterans have a unique and valuable perspective on what an
> imperialist foreign policy means up close and personal.Some of those
> men and women might really surprise you.
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> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Thomas Beshear <tbeshear at insightbb.com>
> wrote:
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>> I agree. It's a message at least some people will absorb. And it's needed.
>> Among the commercials before a movie I saw today (it wasn't Avatar) was a
>> spot for the National Guard, complete with martial music, "24"-style
>> graphics, and plenty of scenes of camouflaged badasses "protecting
>> freedom."
>> If Avatar can make a few kids question that message, all the better.
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Tracy" <brook7 at sover.net>
>> To: "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 11:29 PM
>> Subject: Avatar
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>>> Avatar is the Ist full length imax 3D film I have seen. It was quite a
>>> ride if not exactly a bold venture into the unknown as storytelling.
>>> Lotta
>>> silly shit in here, but I think the Newitz review is too harsh and too
>>> narrow as a cultural lens. This is about civilization's war on tribal
>>> cultures , not dark skinned people. Also it ignores the fact that a film
>>> of
>>> mass appeal is taking an openly subversive position on the role of the US
>>> corporate/military/ colonial/ mercenary nexus. Nothing was disguised and
>>> I
>>> saw military looking fellows walking out after the movie shaking their
>>> heads and looking disturbed. For me that justifies the many weak points.
>>> This is not pure escapism, and I hope it has some disturbing effects on
>>> the culture, particularly on youth.
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>>> We really do live at a time when the last traces of tribal cultures are
>>> being extinguished along with vast swaths of the planet's complex
>>> ecosystems. All done in pursuit of the rocket fuel of infinite
>>> consumption.
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