Bernadine Dohrn
kelber at mindspring.com
kelber at mindspring.com
Mon Feb 2 12:07:59 CST 2009
If we can admire Dohrn (I admire her passion and commitment, if not her tactics and results), then doesn't this lead to an at least theoretical understanding of why people around the world might admire the suicide squad of 9-11? I still think this good anarchist/bad terrorist dichotomy is some of what Pynchon was exploring in ATD.
Laura
-----Original Message-----
>From: Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
>Sent: Feb 2, 2009 2:26 AM
>To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>Subject: Re: Bernadine Dohrn
>
>I can't hate Frenesi either, but I respect Dohrn more than any FBI
>snitches. After all Frenesi is not following her conscience and
>Dohrn arguably was.
>The underlying issue with Dohrn is that she was for violent
>revolution against an empire with a dark side much the same as
>European Fascism. To me her tactics are futile. Did the American
>revolution end colonialism? Did the war against Fascism end fascism?
>Still it is hard to renounce all bombings. Most still favor some.
>Who would Jesus bomb?
>
>My house has a mortgage and may still when I die or move. Most of the
>world is owned by a very few and it is hard to know how to fight
>them. I find myself far more disgusted by the happy blather of the
>first fighter pilots to drop bombs on Iraq than by Dohrn. To me
>Frenesi and the youthful Dohrn and the Pilots are all too easily
>seduced by violence, but who isn't?
>On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:57 AM, rich wrote:
>
>> sure someone mentioned this already
>>
>> in some ways to me this is what Frenesi resembles in my minds eye:
>>
>> www.pbs.org/.../images/film_bernadine.jpg or
>> images.usatoday.com/.../2005/08/15/dohrn-mug.jpg
>>
>> interesting woman--hard to fault the anti-war sentiment of 60s
>> radicals though the painful folly of its youthful blather is rather
>> sad and the smugness unattractive
>>
>> how did the orgies in the back of vans on the way to detroit or
>> somewheres roaring down the highway become bombings?
>> such bravery and anger wasted and misdirected
>>
>> all became the pointless 70s
>> but what the fuck do I know
>>
>> i just can't hate Frenesi I guess is what I'm saying
>
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