Partly P: Diacritical signs

[grladams at teleport.com]

I just got back from Online Northwest conference in Corvallis Oregon where
one session was about Clearspace which is an application to allow people to
collaborate online. Very post stone age. Perhaps an answer to yr socalled
stone age technology. But we've been on this list for almost 15 years or
so. The sheer magnitude of our quantity amazes me -- when I asked the
fellow what sort of space would be required to handle a hot discussion and
collaboration for 15 years, I don't really think he even had thought about
that. I don't even think some of these hot tech companies even envision
themselves in existence beyond a couple years. Facebook's probably going to
sell out too one day. 

Listserv doesn't do this.

With this listserv you can still kind of find things in the archives when
we play nice with plain text and decent subject lines :) I was sitting
there at the conference, seeing him show the collaborative software, it's
tagging and indexing capabilities, the chance to upload documents, images,
follow side blogs, and entertained in my mind a whole complete parallel
universe where Pynchon-l discussion list had been on Clearspace. But here's
the catch: It costs money (probably more than the listservs at Boise) and
there've been times that I've been active and completely broke on the list
so would not have paid. And then there'd have been the temptation to upload
lots of stuff for each other to play with. And if everyone uploaded their
files saved in various file formats over a period of 15 years, how would we
go back and open them in the software of the future which leaves each
subsequent one in the wastebin of 5 1/2 inch floppy drives and Windows 3.0?
At least listserv is able to stand the test of time. 

Original Message:
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From: Kai Frederik Lorentzen lorentzen at hotmail.de
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:25:31 +0100
To: tim at hyperarts.com, pynchon-l at waste.org, miksaapja at gmail.com
Subject: RE: Partly P: Diacritical signs



 
>
> Whatta relief. "Független Hírügynökség" comes across
> just fine. So it looks like mystery solved.

 
Not really. Though I don't like the way you sounded, I switched, in order
to improve the archives' readibility, to 'plain text' in mid December 
(> mail: "re-entry") and have not posted 'rich text' ever since. Yet when
I visited the archives today, I saw that the subject lines still don't
appear the way they should (though I strongly doubt that there are, like 
you write, "many people" who get it like that in their mailboxes). So it's 
not (only) about 'plain text/rich text'. Regarding the subject line, there
must be another technical problem. See, for example, my two mails from 
2/2/09. Or Otto's posting from 1/7/09. Always when an "Umlaut" (ä; ö; ü)
appears in the subject line, the archive is producing Sonderzeichen. Or,
like on 1/24/09, it swallows the whole line and leaves a blank space. I 
guess avoiding diacritical signs in the subject line can solve that problem.
But please don't tell bs à la "diacritical signs can only be rendered by 
rich text". It's not true (and you probably know this). The archive's 
technical dis/abilities are a relic from the electronical stoneage.
 
KFL+
  
       
 
 
>
> Anyone needing help with the rich/plain text deal, just let me know,
> blockwart that I am ;)
>
> Tim
>
>

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