aw. RE: aw. RE: aw. RE: Why did Elser plant the bomb?

[grladams at teleport.com]

Maybe it is karma that we are saddled with now in the sense that now
Hitler/Holocaust is invoked against most attempts to rationalize or support
human behavior in
a)sociology
b)reproductive rights
c)social services
d)nationalism
e)socialism
f)art criticism

You will be compared to Hitler and those who debate you will have your
beliefs twisted, streched and equated with support of a Holocaust
eg: if you think for example that physical fitness should be a mission of
the state
if you actually like large social pageantry
if you believe that not every single foetus is automatically a rights
bearing human (think the lady with 14 implanted foeti)
if you don't like modern art that looks like crap
if you're for a politician who gets people to their feet pumping their
fists in the air with joy
if you have a thing for uniforms or whips n stuff
if you think radical islamist jihadists probably ought to have their phones
tapped
if you believe there is a canon 
etc











Original Message:
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From: Kai Frederik Lorentzen lorentzen at hotmail.de
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:35:51 +0100
To: robinlandseadel at comcast.net, pynchon-l at waste.org
Subject: aw. RE: aw. RE: aw. RE: Why did Elser plant the bomb?





Robin wrote:
 
 
>> Ok, we're talking about Hitler, and the year is 1939.
>>
>> Michael says:
>>
>>> History also tells us that successful assassinations bring on
>>> horrible retribution and do little to change policy.
>>>
>> This makes me speechless ... Would be interested what other P-listers
>> have to say to that ... Especially Jewish, Gypsie, Slavic, gay and
>> epileptic people ... Come on, don't leave it like that ...

 

> Not to mention what happened to America's civil rights movement in the
> wake of the assassinations of MLK and RFK.

 
Sorry, I don't get your point. Please explain!
 
 
>
> Our Beloved Author has a change of tune in Vineland, one that does not
> change key or meter in his subsequent novels. What was once a burning
> need for a justice that the author knows will never come shifts mode
> into an awareness of the presence of karma, a law of nature & spirit
> akin to Newton's laws of motion and rest that eventually restores the
> level.
>

 
But you don't want to convince me that the Holocaust was karmic business,
do you? I mean, I've heard this before from some, well, western buddhists
who were telling me that the Jews (and the Gypsies and the Slavic people,
not to forget psychotics, gays and epileptic people) must have all done
really
bad things in, as the folks believed in, former lifetimes to get
exterminated
like this. Sorry, though I do not consider myself as especially
narrow-minded, 
there would be no way to continue our conversation, in case you share
similar
views. Say it ain't so!
 
Kai    
 
 
 
>
>>>> B-but I forgot:
>>>>
>>>> "Jesse brought home as an assignment from school 'write an essay on
>>>> What It Means To Be An American.'
>>>> 'Oboy, oboy,' Reef had this look on his face, the same look his
>>>> own father
>>>> used to get before heading off for some dynamite-related activities.
>>>> 'Let's see that pencil a minute.'
>>>> 'Already done.' What Jesse had ended up writing was,
>>>> IT MEANS TO DO WHAT THEY TELL YOU AND TAKE WHAT THEY GIVE YOU AND
>>>> DON'T GO
>>>> ON STRIKE OR THEIR SOLDIERS WILL SHOOT YOU DOWN.
>>>> 'That's what they call the 'topic sentence'?'
>>>> 'That's the whole thing.'
>>>> 'oh.'
>>>> It came back with a big A+ on it." (Against the Day, p. 1076)
>>>>
>>>> kfl
>>>>
>>>> "Each bird has his branch now, and each one is the Zone." (GR, p.
>>>> 519)
>

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