"A screaming" - question to native speakers
János Székely
miksaapja at gmail.com
Tue Jun 30 12:26:24 CDT 2009
Paul,
sorry, "pronoun" was due to sleepiness, of course it's an indef. article.
My point is the following: grammatically you can't use an indefinite
article with gerund, only with countable nouns. There is no such
sentence as "Two screamings come across the sky". At least that's what
my textbook English sez to me. That's why I rely on your native ear.
What I ask is how you perceive it:
- is it a deliberate act of grammatical dislocation (substituting
uncountable "screaming" for the more usual countable noun "scream"),
- or is it a meaning of "a" different from the indefinite article,
that is, "one kind of" (as in "a poise, an uneasiness").
János
2009/ 6/30 Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com>:
> I wasn't sure I understood Janos' question.
>
> Semantically of course we don't know yet whether the screaming was
> from a human, another primate, or was a scream-like sound generated by
> an inanimate object.
>
> But syntactically (grammatically), the construction is completely
> straightforward. A verbal noun (gerund) preceded by an indefinite
> article.
>
> P
>
> 2009/6/30 Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>:
>> I have to choose option #3. It seems to me to be as onomatopoetic as
>> it is anything else. It is a particular screaming only after we read
>> on. Its initial signified meaning is unknown, so it might be any
>> screaming, physical, metaphysical or hallucinatory. That ambiguity is
>> a part of the greatness of it as an opening phrase. The first thing
>> that happens to the reader is that he (and / or she) is cast out of
>> certainty like a progenitor from Paradise.
>>
>> 2009/6/29 János Székely <miksaapja at gmail.com>:
>>> I'm writing an essay on translating GR and I'm having doubts "after
>>> the fact": Would you read "a screaming" in the first sentence as
>>> - pronoun + countable noun, or as
>>> - a [kind of] screaming,
>>> or is it ambiguous?
>>>
>>> Thx
>>> János
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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