VL p. 246
Michael Bailey
michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com
Mon Mar 2 15:50:20 CST 2009
I'm chuckling to myself. I sort of agree with all of you, Mark,
Laura, robin, at the same time I have my own notions (something about
the early reference to Ghostbusters, the way Takeshi & DL are able to
make a living off helping Thanatoids [and yes, I think they really are
helping them in a real sense, not like 'I'm from the government and
I'm here to help you' - the Thanatoids come in of their own volition],
and the many awakenings in the book [Zoyd, all the sleepers at the
reunion, and all the awakenings in between such as DL waking up
Frenesi, and putting the guard to sleep and waking him up etc etc that
death isn't so terribly different from sleep if you get a qualified
karmic adjuster working on the case in thyme...] make a sort of visto
and I see Thanatopsisocity as another state of being that I never
heard of before this book except maybe in Dante and Eliot - I didn't
dream that death had undone so many...)
and yet I get a distinct sense that there's even more to OBA's vision
than all of that...
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> LB: Reconciliation?, (yes, hard) :
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> Living "next to ourselves" as it is said of Frenesi may be what unites the betrayed with the self-betrayed?
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 2:12:54 PM
> Subject: Re: VL p. 246
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> On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:59 AM, kelber at mindspring.com wrote:
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>> So I'm getting from this that you don't agree with me that the Thanatoids are, in part, a critique of the passive, tube-watching culture?
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> In part, the Thanatoids are a critique of the passive, tube-watching cultureTV Zombie Nation. In part, the Thanatoids are a critique of activists who who bailed on "the movement"/had the movement bail on them. In part Vineland is the end of the road for the American Dream. As usual with all Pynchon, things are never either/or. Things are "&."
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