Frenesi's Kinks

[Paul Mackin]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Bailey" <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
To: "P-list" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: Frenesi's Kinks


> got to kind of Zero Inn (isn't that a bar in Vineland or someplace,
> and also isn't that like a Japanese warplane reference also?)...

If they aren't they should be . . .:-)

> got to kind of zero in on who is expressing the insights...
> at least I think it's important to distinguish insights expressed by
> the characters from free-floating insights (and also to [at minimum]
> triage those into "sarcastic" "humorous" and "sincere" expressions of
> the author's) -------- I don't think that Frenesi's insights nor
> Brock's lack validity, just that we should consider the source

Don't both of them have a pretty good sense of themselves?

I'm curious as to whether p-listers credit with some kind of validity 
Brock's insights about his young antagonists.

 still rockin' the wave/beach metaphor, personally...
> see the waves, might represent her quest for social justice, and they
> drive her up, again and again against the beach of fascism -- but her
> quest is like D-Day at Normandy, to really extend the metaphor

The waves washing Frenesi toward Brock are both her raging hormones and her 
need for the order and security that B's  program of state power promises.. 
(brock's hormones are of course also raging)


All this sounds too diagramatic I know. The beauty of the book (this chapter 
anyway) is in the way Pynchon tells the story, not in some kind of parsible 
explanation of anything.

P.