VL-Hub's monologue

[Paul Mackin]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bekah" <Bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Paul Mackin" <mackin.paul at gmail.com>
Cc: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: VL-Hub's monologue


> nationalize the whole bunch of 'em -  auto,  banks,  defense,  what  else? 
> (NOT ag.)
>
> Bekah

It's sort of inevitable.

The government already owns 79% of AIG and judging from the noise coming out 
of Congress and on the ground more and more direct government control of 
operations will be coming.

This will be the way Capitalism gets itself saved.

Of course once the financial crisis is over and the broader economic 
situation improves there will be tremendous pressure from the taxpayers, 
etc. to sell the operations back to private capiital.

The people will want their money back and their taxes lowered.

That's what usually happens.

Britain, France.

P



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> On Mar 17, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Paul Mackin wrote:
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>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <kelber at mindspring.com>
>> To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:36 PM
>> Subject: VL-Hub's monologue
>>
>>
>>> (p. 288-291):  This is one of the high points of the book, in my 
>>> opinion. Hub's monologue/diatribe on IATSE vs. CSU captures the  essence 
>>> of everything that went wrong with the American labor  movement, 
>>> bringing it to its current sorry state.  His culminating  words:
>>>
>>> "'...I let the world slip away, made my shameful peace, joined the  IA, 
>>> retired soon's I could, sold off my only real fortune -- my  precious 
>>> anger -- for a lot of got-dam shadows.'"
>>>
>>> speak not only to the dissolution of the labor movement, but to  the 
>>> fizzling of the "spirit" of the 60s.
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Anger's a lot in the news these days, though in a somewhat  different 
>> context than the one Hub is operating in.
>>
>> How do p-listers feel about allowing the Giants that are too big to  fail 
>> to just fail anyway?
>>
>> Would mean a lot more suffering for the weakest of us.
>>
>> Probably would mean more p-list unemployment than already exists.
>>
>> Might mean the country (countries) would end up with REAL fascism  like 
>> Europe in the thirties.
>>
>> Or is Obama correct?  That it is very dangerous to rule from anger.
>>
>> If capitalism as we know is ever going to be toppled, now is an 
>> opportunity not to be wasted.
>>
>> P
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