Where I've been, where I am

[Carvill John]

Ok, look. I don't wish to adjust the substance of what I said earlier, but I do apologise if I seemed overly agressive. You might suppose that I get so angry about this stuff because of my level of personal invovement, but in online discussions such as this, it's really the ignorance and fudging of people like Chomsky that gets me. Listen to him being interviewed, how he so softly mumbles:
 
 "yes....[pause, ponder wooly jumper whilst staring into space with a look of infinite sadness].. there were.... atrocities.... [clear implication: who can say how these 'atrocities' came to pass? Perhaps they just materialised in our universe, as a manifestation of God's displeasure at American Imperialism]..."
 
 
Plus the terrifying levels of blind, unquestioning support he attracts. The man is a cult. (Ahem. Yeah, you could read that last wordtwo ways.)
 
 
> You have
> Bosnian friends who told you what really happened there,
 
I have Bosnian friends, but had already formed my own views before i met them. It was pretty clear at the time what was going on.
 
 
Ok, if you sincerely want my recommendations, try these:
 
'Seasons in Hell: Understanding the War in Bosnia' by Ed Vulliamy
 
http://www.amazon.com/Seasons-Hell-Understanding-Bosnias-War/dp/0788151053/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1237498413&sr=8-1
 
Vulliamy was with the ITN crew who got the disputed footage of the Serb camps. This book was sitting on the table in my flat the first time my future wife came in, and she said, oh, Vulliamy - his book is the only one I've read that got what happened right.
 
 
A more scholarly, but probably more devastating account of British politicians and their relentles indifference:
 
'Unfinest Hour: Britain and teh Destruction of Bosnia' by Brendan Simms
 
http://www.amazon.com/Unfinest-Hour-Britain-Destruction-Bosnia/dp/0140289836/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1237498585&sr=1-1
 
 
'Madness Visible' by Janine Di Giovanni - an episodic, fast-paced extension of her contemporaneous newspaper reports:
 
http://www.amazon.com/Madness-Visible-Janine-Di-Giovanni/dp/0375724559/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1237498644&sr=1-1
 
 
As a digestif to those, try this analysis of why so many on 'the Left' are apologists for Milosevic:
 
http://www.glypx.com/BalkanWitness/hoare.htm
 
"This sense of Milosevic as a socialist martyr and the ICTY as a form of Inquisition permeates the thought of the left revisionists, who view him as their man ‘fighting back’ against the Western enemy."
 
 
Enjoy!



> From: lebryan at speakeasy.net
> To: johncarvill at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: Where I've been, where I am
> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:06:44 -0700
>
>
> John, since you already know the truth about what happened there, and
> I don't, of course no dialogue is possible on the matter. You have
> Bosnian friends who told you what really happened there, I have no
> Bosnian friends nor Serbian friends either. So I really have no
> personal or second hand knowledge about it. You are right when you
> say I am ignorant about it and of course you are under no obligation
> to try and enlighten me, so I will find my own books.
>
> Lawrence
>

 
 
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