I should know better

Paul Mackin mackin.paul at gmail.com
Fri Mar 20 09:21:47 CDT 2009




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robin Landseadel" <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: I should know better


> To give as civil a response as I am able,  Chomsky is a leading figure  of 
> the radical left. The book we are currently discussing [in our lazy  and 
> digressive fashion] concerns itself, in large part, with the  radical left 
> in America. One of the major themes of Vineland is the co- option of the 
> radical left movements of the 60's by innate,  internalized fascism. The 
> discussion you landed on is concerned with  what might be perceived as 
> Chomsky's tolerance of certain criminal   forms of governance over others.

Seems to me Pynchon is the one who co-opted the (sort of) radical left for 
his inscurable literary purposes. Nobody else wanted much to do with theml.

Seriously, who might be the historic counterparts for Vineland's radical 
left who were co-opted by "innate internalized fascism"

Weathermen becoming university professors, community college math 
instructors, neighborhood organizers, occupants of federal prisons?

There was one guy who became a stock brokers Jerry Rubin I think.



>
> John Carville writing about:
>
> . . .the terrifying levels of blind, unquestioning support he
> attracts. The man is a cult. (Ahem. Yeah, you could read that
> last wordtwo ways.) . . .
>
> . . . others mentioning Pacifica news, all making comment on these 
> counter-cultural figures touches on themes found in Vineland.
>
> On Mar 19, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Hal wrote:
>
>> Why is this on th pynchon list server?
>> hal lewis
> 




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