Vond /charm

Henry Musikar scuffling at gmail.com
Wed Mar 25 13:36:26 CDT 2009


Beg to differ.  It's not a fifties TV show relationship between Prairie and
Zoyd, it's a Seventies sit-com, and as such, close and not without
sweetness.  Their lightly disparaging remarks, before Hector reappears at
the Bodhi, particularly are based on knowing and loving each other.  Her
Preparation H retort to Brock, though amusing, would never have been used
against Zoyd.  Prairie's "intense curiosity" is about Brock, the man that
her mother was unable to resist, not the gentle father, biological or not,
who except for a brief period, raised her.  When baby Prairie calls Zoyd a
hippy bum, we recognize that though she is to some extent correct, she has
been manipulated by an agent of the left, her mother's mother, and we feel
bad, but we know that she grows out of it.

Prairie's motives are simple, i.e. pure, as are those of her friends, and
they are inescapably agreeable in comparison to those of most of OBA's
characters.  Zoyd, though ever so slightly turned, has done very little, if
any, wrong.

Henry Mu

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Tracy

I think your point is totally valid Bekah and fits right in with  
Henry's list. For me thinking about the motives here shows the  
complexity of of the topic. My post here was actually a response to  
Henry's "And yet Prairie..."
My thinking is that we do see her having second thoughts, but who  
wouldn't considering the chance that this is her father.  IMO they  
never would have bonded or even connected. I actually have personal  
experience along these lines with a step daughter who who later  
asked  me to adopt her and who at one point tried to connect to her  
biological Father. She still has a wonderful relationship with her  
father's mother but zip with the father. In my experience kids who  
have a parent who flaked out are very wary about what is real, even  
with the intense curiosity factor.

On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Bekah wrote:

> Fwiw,  I didn't mean that Vond necessarily accepted Prairie as his  
> own child.  I only meant he wanted to see that his ideas were  
> continued on into the next generation - whomever their genetic  
> fathers happened to be.
>
> Bekah
>
> On Mar 25, 2009, at 6:04 AM, Joseph Tracy wrote:
>
>> I think the preparation H remark, staying on her feet a little  
>> better than Luke Skywalker, gives some indication that she is not  
>> entirely charmed. Beside she could be Weed Atman's child. But she  
>> is for damn sure a child of Zoyd and of Vineland and the People's  
>> Republic of Rock and Roll. Zoyd fed her , Zoyd wiped her butt.  
>> Zoyd kept out of harm's way and would do anything but rat for her.  
>> He may be a hippie slob, but he's not a rat or an aspiring  
>> concentration camp commander, or an awol parent.
>>
>> Good list Henry. I always like multiple choice where the best  
>> answer is all of the above.
>> On Mar 25, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Bekah wrote:
>>
>>> I thought Brock's intentions were more like keeping the flame of  
>>> fascism alive even unto the next generation.  I saw it as kinda,  
>>> sorta allegorical although there is a personal revenge kind of  
>>> connection.
>>>
>>> Bekah
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 24, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Henry Musikar wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is Brock's intention towards Prairie?
>>>>
>>>> A. Patriarchal control?
>>>> B. Reconnection with Frenesi by blackmail, actual or emotional?
>>>> C. Sexual?
>>>> D. Fatherly protection?
>>>> E. All of the above?
>>>>
>>>> Henry Mu
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