23 skidoo [bonus tracks]

Bekah bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net
Sat Oct 10 21:04:07 CDT 2009


Electric Flag also used sax.  But they weren't surf music - just of  
the time (shortly).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Flag
The Electric Flag was a blues rock soul group, led by guitarist Mike  
Bloomfield, keyboardist Barry Goldberg and drummer Buddy Miles, and  
featuring other well-known musicians such as vocalist Nick Gravenites  
and bassist Harvey Brooks.

Bekah


On Oct 10, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Joseph Tracy wrote:

> just wanted to pop this thought in again. Listen to the sax player  
> for the lively ones if you can, He's good.
>
> I like the Beach Boys or Byrds as closest approximations of the  
> style, trajectory and feel of the Boards. But musically the sax is  
> out of place with either band. The sax player for the Lively Ones,  
> on the other hand has a weird combination of california bounce,  and  
> jazzy minor key noirishness that fits perfectly with Harlingen.  Any  
> way I don't see any direct comparison. To me this is a fictional  
> band and P steers away from any evidence of musical devotion or  
> respect from other characters,  which would be the norm in the  
> culture of the time.
>
> On Oct 10, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Robin Landseadel wrote:
>
>> On Oct 10, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Bekah wrote:
>>
>>> So you are suggesting (or not) that Coy is a "ghost musician" for  
>>> the Boards and actually plays with them as an associate,  like the  
>>> Wrecking Crew?   Just wondering.
>>>
>>> Bekah
>>
>> Yes, that's one suggestion.
>>
>> Coy , like members of the "Wrecking Crew," is a musician from some  
>> higher or more complex musical discipline then one usually finds  
>> involved in "Surf Music." If you have any musical sense—say maybe  
>> you're familiar with Beethoven and Rossini— you realize that one  
>> sax player really sticks out in the surf music scene on account of  
>> actually soloing as opposed to filling in with two-note fills.
>>
>> Listen to the bulk of big-label top forty from L.A., 1964/1970 and  
>> you're hearing the Wrecking Crew.
>>
>> I'm also playing the "6 degrees of separation" game with Terry  
>> Melcher, Dennis Wilson, Phil Spector and Charles Manson, tying some  
>> threads together I've seen in other books of Pynchon's.
>>
>> I've long had a sense that the Paranoids best matched the Byrds.  
>> All the talk about surf music in Vineland and Inherent Vice  
>> obviously points to the Beach Boys. The Boards are a fictional  
>> band, as are the Paranoids, but they both have recognizable  
>> features from well-known and analogous bands of the same times and  
>> places.
>>
>> If you have any musical sense—say maybe you're familiar with Jan &  
>> Dean and Dick Dale— you realize that one musician really sticks out  
>> in the surf music scene on account of actually composing as opposed  
>> to filling in ready-made musical structures like the twelve-bar  
>> blues:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDfH_J4MAUQ
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcUeSDMll5s
>>
>> Though the Beach Boys LP "Surf's Up" was issued in 1971, the Boards  
>> circa 1970 have issues and virtues analogous to the Beach Boys of  
>> 1970. And "Surf's Up" has so very much to do with "Inherent Vice."
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xrZPBdYGVE&feature=related
>
>

http://web.mac.com/bekker2/





More information about the Pynchon-l mailing list