Ig Nobels

[Ian Livingston]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:33 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> if no one is gonna rock the boat, what's the point? Yes, I understand
> the vampire like suck the entrenched interests have in the US but if
> the prez can't do it, who is?
>
> we want more--that so hard to understand?
>
You are quite right, if, perhaps a bit overzealous, given that you are
actually preaching to the choir. Yes, we want more, but are we willing
to make that more happen? National change does not happen from the top
down, as zealous Alice likewise overstates, change of the sort you are
on about is a national thing that requires more than a vote, more than
a man with a few allies.



On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:33 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> if no one is gonna rock the boat, what's the point? Yes, I understand
> the vampire like suck the entrenched interests have in the US but if
> the prez can't do it, who is?
>
> we want more--that so hard to understand?
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:55 PM, alice wellintown
> <alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
>> But surely you understand that Presidents of the US don't have the
>> power needed to make the kinds of changes we would love to see, right?
>> Having a set of brazen Brunswicks doesn't mean the Prez can knock the
>> pins down. He doesn't get to roll in most frames. And, some of the
>> pins are glued to the lane. It ain't as easy as it looks on TV. The
>> Nobel folks might just hekp the guy get re-elected. Right now it looks
>> like he's lost a lot of support from the Peace vote, the gay voter,
>> the anti-wall street vote, and other left, liberal, democractic,
>> Reagan Democratic working class folk. The Nobel may help him win some
>> of that vote back. He needs more support not less. Otherwise, it's
>> back to Bush & Co. full tilt boogey.
>>
>