Ig Nobels

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My position is that marching is unlikely to produce much change. That does 
not mean we should not try, should not be in the streets. I am just 
pessimistic about the possibility of anything more than superficial change 
at the top. Yet, we must not simply light another joint and head down to the 
7-11 for munchies-appeasing 'food.'

Besides, marching is fun. It is great to be in the streets, flaunting your 
self-righteousness.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kelber at mindspring.com>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:16 PM
Subject: RE: Ig Nobels


> If change doesn't happen from the top down, shouldn't the people on the 
> bottom be marching?
>
> Laura
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Henry Musikar <scuffling at gmail.com>
>>Sent: Oct 11, 2009 7:32 PM
>>To: 'Pynchon Liste' <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>Subject: RE: Ig Nobels
>>
>>Page is right.  All the critics of Obama from the left, including 
>>"leaders"
>>like Amy Goodman, Noam Chomsky, and Ralph Nader put together haven't done
>>half as much to actually move the USA towards helping world peace efforts 
>>as
>>Obama and his centrist supporters have.  A reduction of American nukes 
>>will
>>eventually lead other countries to be able to reduce theirs.
>>
>>If Obama's rhetoric isn't worth a damn, than why are the words of
>>Palestinians and the people who just can't stop marching?  Change doesn't
>>happen from the top down, which is why Obama can't do more, or do as much 
>>as
>>quickly as he appears to want to do.  Obama is hampered by unfriendly fire
>>from both sides, each of which accuse him and the Democrats of embodying 
>>all
>>that they oppose.  He must be doing something right!
>>
>>I ain't marchin' anymore.  At least not for time being.
>>
>>Henry Mu
>>Sr. IT Consultant
>>http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20/
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Page
>>
>>Ian wrote:
>>
>>National change does not happen from the top down.
>>_________
>>
>>This is a lesson we learned from the 60s and early 70s. The way to effect
>>real change is to become a member of your City Council, or become a County
>>Commissioner. Perhaps, the most useful and effective position would be on
>>your local School Board. It was impossible to topple Nixon by small groups
>>of the disaffected marching in the streets.
>>
>
>


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