44 Here Comes Coy to Save the Motherland
alice wellintown
alicewellintown at gmail.com
Sun Oct 18 16:36:17 CDT 2009
>> know the measure of (Pirate's Bananas), some fortune, shine one like
>> crazy diamonds. In IV and in VL, the artist who crosses over to the
>> political side, like Frenesi with her camera (the camera is a Gun, a
>> phalic instrument of control and violence) may find his/her way back
>> to the fold, but will pay a very dear price.
>
> something like that, yeah
And, since the author has elected to focus on the dear price paid by
those who betray themselves, their families, their friends, their
gifts and graces, and since some force more powerful than money and
guns and drugs and sex is driving them to betrayal, I'd say it ain't
me making these woks out ot be dystopian; it's Pynchon.
>> Why did Coy need to turn
>> to the people he did to get help? Why were there no options? There
>> were options. Why didn't he exercise them?
>>
>
> His own weakness.
I Agree.
>
>>> but it was what brought them together
>>> in the first place.
>>
>> Why is there coming together positive? I don't see this.
>
> ah, most of us like to see young people get together...
> Doc senses something admirable in Hope cleaning herself
> up for the baby...
> the two of them do better together than they
> were doing alone...
I disagree; most of us don't like to see young people getting
together. Nature wants to see young people together. More and more,
most of us try to prevent Nature from having her way. Hope and Coy
have not done much good for each other. Larry is projecting; like
Dennis Flange, as P notes in SL Introduction, Larry may want to have a
family like his brother has, but he isn't willing to pay the price.
And, that is Grooo V.., but he seemes compelled to project his
familial repression onto Coy & Hope.
> although Doc is sold on this, he's a softhearted type
> indoctrinated in mating for life by his wine-bibbing parents.
> The story also includes a cute couple totally in thrall to
> the Golden Fang, later in the book, so as to cast at least
> some doubt on the proceedings by their so easily fitting into
> an evil system...
>>
>> He needed junk to see the light; he needed to fall into hell to
>> realize what a nightmare Vietnam is, and what a nightmare he has made
>> of his life? I can't buy that.
>
> yes, that can't be the reason. Something else that was in him
> prior to dope and stayed with him?
Yeah, it's an inside job. He should go to Rio. If you can't find it
when there, you don't want to.
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