Coy

Mark Kohut markekohut at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 19 20:23:23 CDT 2009


Paradise is the beach, the hippie ethos......So, of course
once you start keeping the books.........................
you're lost............

--- On Mon, 10/19/09, Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: Coy
> To: "John Bailey" <sundayjb at gmail.com>
> Cc: pynchon-l at waste.org
> Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 9:00 PM
> This really is getting very
> interesting!   Thanks Joseph,  Laura,
> Robin, John,  others.   Wow.
> 
> Bekah
> 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2009, at 3:23 PM, John Bailey wrote:
> 
> > I like this reading of Coy. Not a stretch to tie him
> to Orpheus, or at
> > least look for a few greek mythical allusions in the
> novel. That
> > doesn't saying they're the key to reading it in any
> way, however.
> > 
> > What else have we got? The Furies and Jason have just
> come up.
> > Narcissus is mentioned (in Black Narcissus at least).
> Amethyst
> > (created by Dionysus).
> > 
> > Oh and on classical refs, just remembered that Fritz's
> bookkeeper is
> > called Milton. Does that make the introduction of the
> internet a kind
> > of Paradise Lost?
> > 
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 8:57 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> There might be some value to the
> Orpheus-Persephone myth in IV, but so
> >> far it's not been convincingly developed. 
> Coy as Orpheus?  More like
> >> Persephone, the one who disappeared
> underground.  And the pursuer here
> >> is Doc, not much in common w/ Orpheus.  And
> anyway Doc's Persephone
> >> would be Shasta, and she isn't found.  She
> returns of her own free
> >> will.
> >> 
> >> And speaking of Shasta, what a dud of a
> development was her part in
> >> this story.  She just essentially gets
> dumped, and returns to her old
> >> haunt.  Penny was more interesting, and
> that's not saying much.
> >> 
> >> But, despite the above, I did enjoy IV...
> >> 
> >> David Morris.
> >> 
> >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 12:50 PM,  <kelber at mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Great thought-provoking post, Joseph (as
> usual).  Some provoked thoughts:  Coy-Orpheus
> playing Brazilian music ties in with the Brazilian movie
> Black Orpheus.  Might Shasta be Persephone, also
> returning from the Underworld,though probably not on a
> permanent basis where Doc's concerned?  And Doc, then,
> is Odysseus, also returning from his quest into the
> Underworld?  A case could also be made for Coy as
> Odysseus, in that he descends into the Underworld on his own
> while his wife waits for him at home.  Like Odysseus,
> Coy returns home.  Doc is lost in fog at the end, much
> as Slothrop disintegrates.  Not all journeys have a
> conventionally happy ending, but unhappy or indeterminate
> endings are a lot more interesting.
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> 
> http://web.mac.com/bekker2/
> 
> 


      




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