Thomas Pynchon's schlmiels

[Paul Mackin]

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From: <kelber at mindspring.com>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Thomas Pynchon's schlmiels


> Doc's a hero in the sense of "the hero of our tale" and in the sense of 
> his being on a quest (first for Shasta, then for the Golden Fang).  I 
> agree, though, he's no schlemiel (the classic definition being:  a 
> schlemiel is a person who spills his soup, and the schlimazl is the person 
> he spills it on).

And who's the one who says "tsk tsk?"


 He's way too competent at everything he does.  Profane has more of the 
loser about him, making him more the schlemiel.  Slothrop's  competent, but 
he does a good job of hiding it (his costume choices are way more out there 
than Doc's).
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> Laura
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>>From: Don Antenen <dantenen at yahoo.com>
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>>>"Profane was just the first in a line of schlmiel heroes of Pynchons,
>>>heroes who, I think, are self-portraits. Not every book has one, but
>>>most do. Tyrone Slothrop of Gravity’s Rainbow; Zoyd Wheeler of
>>>Vineland; and now Doc Sportello of Inherent Vice."
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>>Sportello is neither a hero (hero to whom?) nor a schlemiel.  Sportello is 
>>a stoner, but he is no schlemiel.
>>
>>all the best,
>>Don
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