IVIV (11) 168
Joseph Tracy
brook7 at sover.net
Sun Oct 25 11:58:15 CDT 2009
I also thought of adenoids but couldn't see the logic. Blatnoy-Good
research and also rhymes with paranoid. Between the secretary , the
general paranoia, Japonica, and the coke his style fits perfectly
with the name.
On Oct 25, 2009, at 12:33 PM, kelber at mindspring.com wrote:
> I also thought of the Giant Adenoid of GR. But the Blatnoy
> reference sounds like the best call.
>
> Laura
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Oct 25, 2009 12:24 PM
>> To: John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com>
>> Cc: P-list <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Subject: Re: IVIV (11) 168
>>
>> for me the name Blatnoyd evokes something along the lines of 'a
>> screaming pain the ass'
>>
>> rich
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 4:57 AM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> That was me and that was the interesting thing that I found. Most
>>> interesting because as usual I'd written off Blatnoyd as another
>>> goofy
>>> pynchon name chosen as much for the sound as any possible allusions.
>>> But the russian meaning is a pretty cut-and-dried pointer towards
>>> the
>>> guy's association with ugly and exclusive networks of power.
>>>
>>> It also just came to me that "blatnoyd" might be the sound you'd
>>> hear
>>> if someone was trying to say "black noise" while, I don't know,
>>> in the
>>> dentist's chair. I looked up "black noise" and it's fascinating:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_noise#Black_noise
>>>
>>> Who knew there were so many coloured noises?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Michael Bailey
>>> <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> think I remember somebody on the list hinting they looked it up
>>>> and found something interesting.
>>>> Best I could do is
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blat_(Russia)
>>>> Blat (Russian: блат, blat) is a term which appeared in the
>>>> Soviet Union
>>>> to denote the use of informal agreements, exchangements of
>>>> services,
>>>> connections, Party contacts, or black market deals to achieve
>>>> results
>>>> or get ahead. Accordingly, blatnoy means a man who obtains a job
>>>> or gets into a university using connections, or sometimes bribes.
>>>> The system of blat led to formation of social networks similar to
>>>> Good ol' boy network, Old boy network, or Guanxi. In the Soviet
>>>> republics,
>>>> blatnoys were very much in demand as it was difficult to gain a
>>>> post
>>>> or enroll in some prestigious majors in universities without
>>>> proper connections.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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