IVIV amethyst is resilient. There is too much kindness in the room all of a sudden.
rich
richard.romeo at gmail.com
Sun Sep 6 10:27:34 CDT 2009
sure Pynch is a sentimentalist but when alot of the book falls within
that certain register as IV does it gets pretty old pretty fast
I like the Pynchonian curved, hilly, valley-full, switchbacked road
trip. too much of IV is cruise control on the highway
p.s. I did get a laugh at watching The Good German last night--George
Clooney thinking Dora was a person throughout the movie--curious, he,
who has written news articles about the V-2 rocket program, didn't
know that? He is kinda clueless. maybe it took a while for people to
learn about Dora
and yup, the Dora Pokler scene is fraught w/ that same schmaltzy-ness
(in fact in the Good German Lena's husband is very much like Pokler)
but we have more background on him, more to latch onto as a reader. at
least I see it that way
rich
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Otto<ottosell at googlemail.com> wrote:
> You mean this? That's glossy?
>
> "Bright-eyed and ready to rock 'n' roll, she bore little resemblance
> to the junkie baby in the Polaroids. Whatever dismal fate had been
> waiting to jump her must've had a short attention span and turned
> aside and gone after someone else." (39)
>
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> 2009/9/6 rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>:
>> ditto. that whole scenario is so schmaltzy as is Doc's parents
>> mindbarf
>> makes one pine for the anubis and pointsman's spermy bed
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>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 5:00 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>> Pynchon kind of glosses over the damaging effects of the heroin Amethyst has been exposed to in utero and as a young, addicted infant. I found the description of her baby pictures pretty disturbing. This isn't a moral issue, it's a physical and mental health issue. Hope, Coy and Amethyst as a family unit isn't a very appetizing picture. TRP clearly knows how fucked up families can be, and that fucked up families have to be accepted and forgiven, but he still goes overboard in sentimentalizing this particular little family, IMO.
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>>> Laura
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>>>>Sent: Sep 5, 2009 12:49 PM
>>>>To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>>>Subject: IVIV amethyst is resilient. There is too much kindness in the room all of a sudden.
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>>>>Hope, symbolic name for the mother of the child in the book, yes, asks about Shasta's relationship to Doc. He's touchy; projects jealousy?
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>>>>Amethyst looks great, not like her baby picture. Sits up as if a grown-up would tell her a story (another internal metaphor for what the narrator does, ala Tore's argument for rooms bigger inside [like the many-mansioned house of fiction]?
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>>>>But, she doesn't get her story. This is when the room was filled with too much kindness and Doc had learned that "kindness without a price tag came along only rarely, and when it did was usually too precious to accept".
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>>>>Without abusing it, which Doc 'was bound to"....Why?
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>>>>If Doc is the hippie of good will Everyman, why does TRP give him this aspect, this lack of character? Part, along with the entry of heroin, of the inherent vice of hippies (in gneral)....Bound to abuse the kindness shown them?
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>>>>Or is Doc "unreliable" here?
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