Alfred Kubin's The Other Side
rich
richard.romeo at gmail.com
Tue Sep 8 10:23:07 CDT 2009
gotta check that flick out
the english version of the novel is what u would expect--somewhat dry
and cluncky but alot of the great imagery of Pearl still stands out
Traumstadt-Pain City? somewhere in Pynchon there is a mention of a
pain city, no?
Kubin's drawings are impressive in any case
love those people who krank (haha) out one weird novel as some sort've therapy
rich
On 9/8/09, Otto <ottosell at googlemail.com> wrote:
> I've read the novel after seeing the movie "Traumstadt" by Johannes
> Schaaf (1973). A quick search brought the info that my book would
> still bring 25 bucks, much more than I originally paid for it.
>
> Haven't read it in decades, so I can't speak about the literary quality.
>
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_andere_Seite
>
> There's no English wikipedia-article.
>
> Otto
>
>
> 2009/9/6 rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>:
>> check out the etymologies of Vheissu from Tim Ware's site (from The Modern
>> Word)
>>
>> Lesbare und lesenswerthe Bemerkungen über das Land Ukkbar in Klein-Asien
>>
>> While certainly of interest to Borges scholars and modern
>> Rosicrucians, Bemerkungen is most notorious for its chapter on the
>> ideal community of Vheissu, the major inspiration behind the infamous
>> Zweite Fruchtbringende Gesellschaft. Better known to history as the
>> Commune of Prague, the ZFG was an isolated group of philosophers,
>> Rosicrucians, and Lutheran radicals who attempted to recreate the
>> ideals of Vheissu by establishing a closed community outside Prague in
>> 1773. Their experiment was a disaster, ending two years later in a
>> spiral of cannibalism, violent orgies, and mass suicide. (For further
>> details, see "Rosiges Glühen, Blutiges Kreuz," by Kristoph Gross, Der
>> Annalen Metakarus, 1934, pp. 345-78; or "The Prague Commune and its
>> Influence on DeSade's The 120 Days of Sodom," by Josephine Pinto,
>> Lingua Franca, Vol 10/No. 3, April 2000, pp. 22-25.)
>> ______
>> Kubin was a Czech--who knows, maybe he knew about the Commune of
>> Prague--orgies, suicide, violence--sounds alot like The Other Side's
>> Pearl.
>>
>> rich
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Mark Kohut<markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Rich,
>>>
>>> Mucho thanks....I am definitely going to read it. Never had heard of it.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> --- On Sun, 9/6/09, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Alfred Kubin's The Other Side
>>>> To: "“pynchon-l at waste.org“" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>>> Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 11:55 AM
>>>> http://dxsuperpremium.blogspot.com/2007/10/other-side-by-alfred-kubin.html
>>>>
>>>> another Vheissu-like dream of annihilation. Kubin's only
>>>> novel. known
>>>> more for his artwork
>>>>
>>>> Written in 1908 and hailed by artists such as Kandinsky,
>>>> The Other
>>>> Side describes a dream kingdom that becomes a nightmare and
>>>> a journey
>>>> to Pearl, a mysterious city created deep in Asia that is
>>>> also a
>>>> journey into the subconscious'
>>>>
>>>> http://calitreview.com/1624
>>>>
>>>> wonderful drawings. if u like Goya and the Wall
>>>>
>>>> In Munich and Berlin it reached for a vehement, grotesque,
>>>> fantastic
>>>> linguistic means, for a wild primitive-sounding syntax,
>>>> from which an
>>>> “other modernism” gradually emerged. Kubin helped
>>>> create this anarchic
>>>> opening, which ignored the norms of taste of peinture and
>>>> ultimately
>>>> still avowed the ancient Horatian delectare—that is, an
>>>> experience of
>>>> the moment in which we recognize a variation of Lessing’s
>>>> “pleasure.”
>>>> Kubin had something quite different in mind: with his
>>>> hallucinatory
>>>> incantations he was seeking to disturb the viewer; he felt
>>>> driven to
>>>> solve the riddle of humankind and creation in a
>>>> spellbinding act. In
>>>> the process he exposed himself to the anxiety that
>>>> Worringer wrote had
>>>> been controlled by the Oriental peoples, since they see
>>>> “in the world
>>>> nothing but the shimmering veil of Maya.” Kubin’s
>>>> studies of occult
>>>> doctrines and Buddhism did not provide him with the refuge
>>>> for which
>>>> he had hoped, however. As early as 1908 he was warning his
>>>> friend
>>>> Fritz von Herzmanovsky-Orlando against Buddhism: “a
>>>> watertight but
>>>> sterile system” that “is incompatible with an
>>>> artistically creative
>>>> existence.”
>>>>
>>>> rich
>>>>
>>>>
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