IVIV Hope Harlingen: ( spoilers)

alice wellintown alicewellintown at gmail.com
Sat Sep 12 10:00:15 CDT 2009


1. the assumption that round is better than flat is not helpful to reading P
2. the narrative choice in this work makes most of the characters flat
(that's a good thing, good decision by the P)
3. flat and round are useful to a point but like all other tools, not
good for all jobs and may even fuck it up so that the right tool won't
even work
4. Wood's notion of transparent and opaque is a useful tool, works
well with the flat and round tool
5. P's character are not characters of depth and feeling (tenderness
and transformation and dynamic recovery and change may happen by
chance or dumb luck or because because just because)
6. P contribution to characteization is great....super ....great
...like ....Marquez's and Gunter Grass' contribution to same.


On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Robin Landseadel
<robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sep 12, 2009, at 2:54 AM, umberto rossi wrote:
>
>> I don't think that one should necessarily see Pynchon's characters as flat
>> and made of paper just because we have had all this talk of metafiction 40
>> years ago.
>
> And I don't think that one should assume that Pynchon's characters are flat
> and/or lack feelings or depth simply because someone else keeps repeating
> that Pynchon's characters lack depth. Doc's stoned 'n sentimental, not the
> worst combo that could happen by a long shot. Doc has feelings and wants to
> do the right thing, even though circumstances make that sort of
> decision-making a bit of a trial.
>
>



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