Re: IVIV: chapter seven—Eel Trovatore
Robin Landseadel
robinlandseadel at comcast.net
Wed Sep 23 11:26:20 CDT 2009
Really to read Pynchon properly you would have to be
astonishingly learned not only about literature but about a
vast number of other subjects belonging to the disciplines
and to popular culture, learned to the point where learning
is almost a sensuous pleasure, something to play around
with, to feel totally relaxed about, so that you can take in
stride every dizzying transition from one allusive mode to
another.
Richard Poirier
On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:44 AM, David Morris wrote:
> I think these criticisms are snarky at best.
. . . and they are coming from folks predisposed to dump on post GR
Pynchon.
> They're all attacking
> what is IV's attitude/voice which is supposed to be laid-back
> stoner-LA. It's purposefully sloppy diction. I don't think it's bad
> writing. It IS cartoonish, purposefully so. If there is any depth
> going on here (and I don't know that there is), it's hidden
> underneath.
While there is a "there" there, it's not the same place as GR and for
many people that disqualifies this book from their serious
consideration. Some of these folks claim they are Lit teachers, even
though their tangled rants don't even bother to use spellcheck, fer
Christ's sake. They might be teachers of literature, but
intellectually they're no match for Pynchon. Seeing that the author is
continuing to change [and in my opinion grow] those kinds of snarky
comments disqualify their critical comments from serious
consideration. There's no reason for Pynchon to re-write Gravity's
Rainbow but there's plenty of reason for him to continue to write
satire about where we are now. That "now" isn't the same "now" that
produced GR or CoL49. There's no reason for Pynchon to attempt to
please James Woods either—he's earned the right to break any rule of
'good writing' he chooses to. What appalls me about these critics is
that they are placing themselves above the author—instead of asking
why Pynchon chose to change style and content and judge these post GR
books on their own terms, they choose instead to savage writing they
can't connect with and might not even comprehend.
. . .I have to scratch my head when I read reviews describing
Inherent Vice as “a beach read,” a “page-turner,” a “breezy work
of genre fiction,” an “amusing snapshot.” This convoluted jeu de
cannibas is less a page-turner than a mind-twister, and just as
marijuana can make a minute feel like an hour, Pynchon can
make his novel’s 369 pages feel like 800. The California setting
and counterculture ambience recall his most accessible novel,
Vineland (1990), but that one’s a lark by comparison. To
properly apprehend Inherent Vice you have to access, inhabit,
and more or less disappear into the pot-befogged brain of its
private eye protagonist, Larry “Doc” Sportello. As you trace your
way through the holes and fissures, nooks and crannies of
narrative, it’s like trying to make sense of fragments laid out on
a sheet of paper resembling the one Doc inserts in his Olivetti
that “appeared to have been used repeatedly for some strange
compulsive origami.” Things begin to make sense only when
you realize that Pynchon is creating his own stoned aesthetic;
he wants to disorient you. . .
In and Out of the Fog:
Inhaling Thomas Pynchon’s “Inherent Vice”
Stuart Mitchner
http://www.towntopics.com/sep0209/book.php
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:32 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think these are all fair criticisms.
I think these are knee-jerk reactions.
>> On 9/22/09, malignd at aol.com <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
>>> Let's look at this again.
>>>
>>> ''I'm Chlorinda, what'll it be," A waitress in a combination
>>> Nehru jacket and Hawaiian-print shirt, just long enough to qualify
>>> as a minidress, and with a set of vibes that didn't help sharpen
>>> anybody's appetite.
>>>
>>> [What is a "set" of vibes?]
"A set of vibes" is your typical Pynchonian pun, and anyone who is too
dense to make that leap has already turned off their critical
facilities. Like most Pynchon puns they work on more than the simple
level of inducing groans.
On Sep 23, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Keith wrote:
> It's surferspeak for the bad vibes she sends out. To a surfer
> those vibrations are like waves....a set of waves.....a set of vibes.
Remember that Coy Harlingen is a Jazz musician who wandered into Surf
music as a paying gig. Doc ran into the theoretically deceased Coy
just six pages back. So the cross-reference to a vibraphone—a Jazz
instrument if ever there was—is apt and perfectly Pynchonian.
One thing the author points out and repeats in IV is the old Hippie
game of playing stupid, an intellectual form of "Playing Possum." If
you've ever been in that neck of the woods you've seen that behavior.
It's certainly relevant to this book.
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