(np) merit pay

[Michael Bailey]

right, that's why paying the kids is a better idea

i'm surprised it hasn't been tried

if you think about it, school IS work for kids, and in our hightech
blah blah society
it's for everyone's benefit that they are there and their success does
affect other sectors


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Another issue -  when teachers are paid on the basis of how well their kids
> do on tests,  the teaching is pretty much "to the test"  ONLY!   No art, PE,
>  music,  etc.  and those are the things which keep some kids in school.
> Also,  when teachers are paid by test score the pressure in the classroom
> goes way up -  the kids are more scared than eager learners.   Pressure
> during test weeks (and the week before) is bad now - if my pay were based on
> it I'm not sure I could keep my issues out of the classroom.   There are
> teachers now who do way too much yelling and pushing and pushing and
> yelling.   (It doesn't work - it only scares the kids.)
>
>  I see more stress symptoms in the kids,  like nail biting,  aggressive
> behavior,  etc,   than in years past.    I'm a good teacher with lots and
> lots of experience (I could retire any time).   I agree with the increased
>  standards but that alone does not ensure that kids achieve.   In California
> it's now about higher standards with less money - no aids, larger class
> sizes,  furloughs,  longer but fewer days.  (And what do you do with longer
> days?  The kids are tired already -  it's about the energy savings - $$$ -
>  of fewer days.)
>
> Bekah
> whose class planted sunflowers yesterday - although it's not in the
> "standards"  (lol)
>
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Keith wrote:
>
>> The folks in California setting up the statistics to analyze the
>> significance of test scores and teacher merit should also be paid based on
>> their merit. They wouldn't get a dime. As Bekah points out they don't
>> understand the basics when it comes to controlling all the relevant
>> variables.
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