Re: Ishmael Reed: "What Progressives Don’t Understand About Obama" Keeping Cool & Caring" NYT

[Albert Rolls]

You're so conservative, you're almost a liberal.

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>From: kelber at mindspring.com
>Sent: Dec 13, 2010 6:51 PM
>To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>Subject: Re: Ishmael Reed: "What Progressives Don’t Understand About Obama" Keeping Cool & Caring" NYT
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>Reed wasn't talking about libertarians, he was talking about progressives.  In the current American political context, I think most people use the phrase "progressive" to mean people who are both economically (anti-corporate, pro-government-spending) and socially liberal.  Libertarians are socially liberale, but economically pro-corporate, anti-tax, anti-government-spending.  Libertarians could well agree with some of the Tea Party tenets.  The libertarians I've met lionize Ron Paul.  True progressives have no overlap with the Tea Party movement, other than when the Tea party people inadvertently and illogically support a progressive position. Such as "Take your hands off my Medicare!"
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>Laura
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>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
>>Sent: Dec 13, 2010 5:49 PM
>>To: P-list <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>Subject: Re: Ishmael Reed: "What Progressives Don’t Understand About Obama" Keeping Cool & Caring" NYT
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>>Laura wrote:
>>> Reed's argument: he met a self-identified white progressive who called the Tea Party a people's movement, therefore ALL white progressives believe this to be the case, is a noxious contortion of logic.
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>>ok, I live in Florida but it is very VERY common here to pick up the
>>newspaper and see people - columnists, self-identified libertarians in
>>particular but not limited to them, and of course letters to the
>>editor - in print calling the Tea Party a people's movement, and so
>>forth
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>>unfortunately his data point is not isolated, is my point
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>>"Three things in life are important. The first is to be kind.  The
>>second is to be kind.  And the third is to be kind." - Henry James
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