V--2nd: icebox

Ian Livingston igrlivingston at gmail.com
Tue Dec 14 12:02:30 CST 2010


I've had two iceboxes in my off-grid life, both when I lived nearer
the crowd than I do now. Iceboxes require ice, but they always work,
unlike refrigerators. I moved away from my last icebox in 83.

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> so this, with Alice's observation just shows that TRP
> did know how it was referred to...in the fifties by many/most.
> another bit he gets right....
>
> I think I do remember my mother calling our refrigerator an icebox
> when I was quite young.......
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Albert Rolls <alprolls at earthlink.net>
> To: Pynchon-L <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Sun, December 12, 2010 6:15:17 PM
> Subject: Re: V--2nd: icebox
>
> Icebox may just be a synonym for refrigerator. I guess it's not a basis for
> establishing wide usage, but my father--working-class NY kid in the thirties and
> after the war, which he dropped out of school to join, a working-class young
> man--referred to refrigerators as iceboxes when I was a young kid in the 70s. I
> assume he wasn't alone.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
>>Sent: Dec 12, 2010 2:23 PM
>>To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>Subject: Re: V--2nd: icebox
>>
>>Is it an icebox? Isn't it part of Melvin's refrigerator...the icebox
>>may be a freezer box above it. What struck me, that "ruby
>>construction."
>>The ruby juices, mixed with vomit, spilled and broken world of Fausto
>>IV, reminds us of the sailor's grave too. Not too healthy that, as the
>>gent stands on the toilet to collect money in that pith helmet for an
>>abortion. That some consider knocking the knocked up girl down the
>>stair then spending the money on more vomit juice reminds me of the
>>LSD in Prairie's baby bottle and that Hope's child who, by some grace
>>unknown, doesn't suck the junk from her mother's polluted breasts. The
>>toilet here does remind us of that junk meet in the portable potty on
>>the boarder of Mexico, one shitting out a bag of shit, the other with
>>her fingers down her throat barfing up a balloon of smack, an erection
>>fixed to a vagina, can't call it love, but something that produces a
>>love child anyway.
>>
>>
>>On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> at lest two uses in this chapter.....was gone even in the fifties in most
>>>places
>>>
>>> not too poor...
>>> but the Kramdens (on "The Honeymooners") still had one......working class
>>> couple, and "it's all about work"
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icebox
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