Re: Ishmael Reed: "What Progressives Don’t Understand About Obama" Keeping Cool & Caring" NYT

Joseph Tracy brook7 at sover.net
Tue Dec 14 16:37:35 CST 2010


One thing is certain. He is NOT "achieving the most possible in this political environment,".He had the absolute  power to stop the wars and withdraw the occupying armies from Iraq, Afghanistan, he had the power to enforce the laws agains spying without a warrant , he had the power to force the bank fraud into the light of day and begin an honest reckoning with our economic realities. He asks others to die for his adopted criminal wars, and refuses to risk losing his job for the sake of the people and the constitution.  He is a brand that looks like a liberal and acts like the emperor of the military corporate empire he rules as a kind of  millionaire temp worker. Fuck Obama, and Fuck his little dog too.

Read Chris Hedges for a dose of reality.

Real Fuckin Bloody Cool to murder people and  to steal their oil and minerals, and protect their drug lords, and he has that wonderful noble stare off into a bright future where all his dreams come true.
On Dec 14, 2010, at 10:22 AM, David Morris wrote:

> Your breakdown of Reeds argument is accurate, except:
> 
> 1.  What you call Obama's maintaining his "fragile coalition," others
> (his base: blacks & whites alike) see as capitulation to an enemy that
> would like to see Obama's political demise above all else (including
> this nation's welfare), unless they get their ransom money.
> 
> 2.  What you call the "keep cool but care" strategy, others (his base:
> blacks & whites alike) see as unwillingness to fight, to lead with
> passion from the bully pulpit.
> 
> He may, in the end, actually be achieving the most possible in this
> political environment,  but I wholeheartedly reject excusing his lack
> of achievement as the result of his race.
> 
> David Morris
> 
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 6:06 PM, alice wellintown
> <alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Reed argument is as solid:
>> 
>> 1. The President cares about Progressive issues.
>> 2. The President's strategy, to keep cool but care, makes sense.
>> 3. White progressives who expect the President to get loud on issues should understand that were the President to take their advice, and abandon is "keep cool but care" stance, he would suffer counter punches that would damage his fragile coalition.
>> 4. Reed supports this argument with an analogy: the President would annoy a good many whites and they would either not vote for the President in the next election or vote against him; "most teachers [saw] me as an annoyance, and gave me the grades to prove it."
>> 5. While one can argue, and with a Black man in the white house one may support this argument with the obvious,   that the days of poor grades and racist assessments generally are behind us, they are not behind us.
>> 6. Even in academic debate, racist argumentum ad hominem persists.
>> 7. The same racist argumentum ad hominem persists in debates amongst progressives.
>> 8. White progressives, where these racist ad hominem are more latent than overt, are kidding themselves and need to understand that the President is a Black man; he can not act like a white man in the white house.
>> 9. The President, and his Black and Latino supporters understand that the President can not lose his cool and the they know his cool is the best strategy.
>> 10. This understanding of cool comes with the territory so the President should take the advice of those of us who been there and
>> done that.
>> 11. This strategy is not about excluding or white progressives; it is about keeping cool.
>> 12. Peace
>> 

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