V--2nd, the wind OR I flame amazement---Ariel in The Tempest

Mark Kohut markekohut at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 19 05:04:59 CST 2010


A favorite book title on Shakespeare, Touching Bottom, by poet Zukovsky.

As a reader, that concept has been there as a goal with books and writers for 
me. 

And here from Laura's obs on the wind, we moved through some attempts at meaning
through root word origins to a clear overt theme in V.---the animate (vs. the 
inanimate). 

Touching (one of the) bottom(s) of P's vision in V.--in his oeuvre? 

"I flame amazement'---Ariel in The Tempest



As a hive reading mind, we are real good, i say.



----- Original Message ----
From: John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com>
To: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
Cc: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>; pynchon -l 
<pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Sat, December 18, 2010 5:17:22 PM
Subject: Re: V--2nd, the wind:

...which in turn comes to form the root of the word "animate" - we
tend to use movement as the signifier of animation these days but it
was originally less about motion and more about breath/spirit.

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 9:50 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> The root of word "spirit" means breath, like the wind, something
> invisible, yet can be felt, heard, can move thing...
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:50 PM, alice wellintown
> <alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
>> He who brings trouble on his family will inherit only wind, and the
>> fool will be servant to the wise.
>> That wind, at least in Pynchon novels, is Grace. The Lord Giveth and
>> the Lord Taketh.  It blows St. Paul to Malta and Paola to America. But
>> it is also the wind of the rocket. So, a complex symbol of Grace. Like
>> Paul, Mason hasn't much resistance to the wind. Dixon has more. Poor
>> Lazarus has none and must rely on the Charity of Dives. And, you, you
>> have a drafty house too.
>>
>>  "He looked up and saw Kurt Mondaugen. The wind all night,
>> perhaps all year, had brought them together. This is what he
>> came to believe, that it was the wind." GR.161
>>
>> "Mason has begun in recent days hearing in the Wind entire
>> orchestral Performances, of musick distinctly not
>> British,--Viennese, perhaps, Hungarian, even Moorish. He
>> finds he cannot concentrate. The Wind seems to be blowing
>> cross-wise to the light incoming from Sirius, producing
>> false images, as if, in Bradley's Metaphor for the
>> Aberration, the Vehicle, Wind, has broken thro' some
>> Barrier, and entered the nonsense regime of the Tenor,
>> Light, whilst remaining attached to it. As supernatural as a
>> Visitant from the Regime of Death to the sunny Colony of
>> Life,--to be metaphorical about it…"  M&D.173
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> A follow-up on an observation of Laura's (which I cannot locate) worth much
>>> comment:
>>>
>>> She noticed the wind around Benny in Chapter 12. Noted Paola's very 
>>>wind-related
>>> name....
>>> Wind is elsewhere and everywhere in P's other works too. Particularly M & D 
>>and
>>> Against the Day, yes?..............................
>>>
>>> Like water, a good thing, a good element...the 'breath of God' even when
>>> speaking irreligiously?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>



      



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