Pynchon name-checked by Michiko--this random world--in conspira cy debunking book

[David Meyer]

It certainly helps no one that the definition of conspiracy has been compromised (deliberately?). 

Folks attempting to debunk the truthers and jfkers ought to step back and recognize that the warren and 9/11 commisions' reports are themselves conspiracy theories. They hypothesise about an event, connecting the dots of evidence they can obtain. 

If more evidence is uncovered, well too late. The report's been written. Case closed, you looney conspiracy nut.

-d



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Joseph Tracy wrote:

Been hearing Aaronovitch on the radio.  His thesis has major flaws  

and is built around straw men like 9-11as inside job  and the Elders  

of Zion. He doesn't have the guts to explore instances when a handful  

of of voices spoke out against a conspiracy and were marginalized ,  

then proved right.

Examples: the progressive left said no weapons of Mass destruction ,  

no to Saddam involvement with 9-11. Danny Schechter, Nouriel Roubini,  

and Jim Kunstler very accurately predicted the financial meltdown and  

described the criminal fraud that led to this event. A handful of  

reporters, one from Fortune questioned the reality of Enron's  

"success". And actual conspiracies have been far from rare.  The CIA  

toppling of Arbenz and Mossadegh, assassination attempts on Castro  

and Bay of Pigs fiasco, US  support for Pinochet Coup, the Gulf of  

Tonkin incident used to justify escalation in Vietnam, the watergate  

break-in and coverup, torture during the gulf war are just a handful  

of relatively recent large and small scale  US government  

conspiracies. Probably from the top of our collective heads this  

group could come up with a very long list of successful and  

unsuccessful conspiracies ranging from outright mafia criminality to  

wall street scams.



The problem here is the notion that there is an objective and  

accurate journalism that is the norm of reliable information. After a  

lifetime of watching the deception and  failures of this system I  

like to evaluate evidence on a topic from all points of view and have  

no particular allegiance to the supposed accuracy and objectivity of  

the MSM. I t often turns out that minority views that describe  

criminal  conspiracies are right and mainstream journalism is  

thoroughly bamboozled by the liars in business , government and the   

media.



If I find it highly credible that Oswald was not the lone gunman and  

that the investigation was fucked up by the criminal J Edgar Hoover  

and the political interests of LBJ, this doesn't mean I am an  

unrealistic dupe of every conspiracy theory that comes down the pike,  

only that in this case I find compelling evidence to think a  

conspiracy is a likely explanation.



Should one be wary of conspiracy theories? Of course . Connecting  

dots is a risky business. But one should be even more wary of the  

many and very real conspiracies that are shaping our world. History  

reveals that criminal  conspiracies have been a central force in  

shaping  the course of human events. We ignores this reality at our  

peril.



Every war of aggression is a criminal conspiracy. Every dictatorship  

is the result of a criminal conspiracy. Most  monarchies are the  

result of criminal conspiracy.  Economic and military colonialism is  

an expression of criminal conspiracy.

















On Feb 16, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:



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