Queer Theory & Futurism
Mark Kohut
markekohut at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 20 20:21:46 CST 2010
Thanks, but I'm having self-doubts over probable oversimplification....
He attacks futurism, we know..........but little else, therefore???
--- On Sat, 2/20/10, Phillip Grayson <phillip.grayson at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Phillip Grayson <phillip.grayson at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Queer Theory & Futurism
> To: "Mark Kohut" <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 9:15 PM
> Mmm,
> Well put.
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> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:58 PM,
> Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
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> Damn good question I say, and damned if I, quick draw no
> matter what, have an opinion.
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> Quick second thought: prolly. After the modernists created
> into the modernity they, and TRP, hated, and said
> that....most art after that was compromised by being part of
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> Which may be why 1) the modernists (and earlier) seem to
> matter most to TRP
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> movies before they were 'films', etc. matter most
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> --- On Sat, 2/20/10, Phillip Grayson <phillip.grayson at gmail.com>
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> > From: Phillip Grayson <phillip.grayson at gmail.com>
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> > Subject: Re: Queer Theory & Futurism
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> > To: "Monte Davis" <montedavis at verizon.net>
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> > Cc: "Mark Kohut" <markekohut at yahoo.com>,
> "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
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> > Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 8:44 PM
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> > Obvious I guess and
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> > already, but with all the pastiche and such, is there
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> > possibility that AtD mocks an artistic deterioration
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> > say, _Ulysses_ along with a cultural one since WWI?
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> > Monte Davis <montedavis at verizon.net>
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> > > you will recall that marinetti's futurism is
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> > Indeed it is, and the rush of wind that the Futurists
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> > Kentish, wind-tunnel Nazi aesthetic:
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