IVIV music

[Joseph Tracy]

In my memory, there was little home made music making as part of  
public life in the suburbs in the late 50s early 60s( Lots' of Band,  
Orchestra, and individual musical discipline) until the rock and folk  
movements took off.  A bit more music in the families and parties of  
my Jewish friends, and where I worked in an Hispanic Park.  But that  
really changed in the late 60s, lot's of public  music, street music.  
Also the FM stations were more daring and introducing music of every  
permutation.  It seemed to die off  a lot in the late 70's. Very  
personal recollection.

Doo wop, rock, hip hop, soul all move from home-made,  popular on the  
streets, local, public phenomena to commercial. Overall we are more  
and more individualized, isolated, treated as niche markets and  
consumers.





On Jan 12, 2010, at 5:29 PM, malignd at aol.com wrote:

> In the sixties we all gave up hootenannies and round singing and  
> glee clubs and doo wop on the corner and church choirs for  
> records?  This was in the sixties!?  I'm so out of it ...
>
> lnherent Vice, the big drop in music quality came at some point in  
> the 60s when we abandoned making our own music and performing/ 
> listening/singing to it in groups and for free, and instead started  
> isolating ourselves with headphones and privately stimulating  
> ourselves with music that we pay for.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> To: dougmillison at comcast.net
> Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 11, 2010 9:52 am
> Subject: Re: IVIV music
>
>
> Now that's the way to thematically connect two seemingly disparate  
> threads, Doug....way to go...Pynchon knew.--- On Mon, 1/11/10,  
> dougmillison at comcast.net <dougmillison at comcast.net> wrote:> From:  
> dougmillison at comcast.net <dougmillison at comcast.net>> Subject: IVIV  
> music> To: "pynchon-l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>> Date: Monday, January  
> 11, 2010, 9:24 AM> Judging by the way it's depicted in> lnherent  
> Vice, the big drop in music quality came at some> point in the 60s  
> when we abandoned making our own music and> performing/listening/ 
> singing to it in groups and for free,> and instead started  
> isolating ourselves with headphones and> privately stimulating  
> ourselves with music that we pay for.> Another pornography, another  
> example of taking the fake in> place of the real. >
>