IVIV20: They both knew, 356-359

[Mark Kohut]

Now, with Joseph's response, I think I see what Paul N. meant by
"what is underneath the beach".......

Life lived, happiness, Shambala,?....all of the unspecified truths of
the 'meaning of life', the good life? the non-transcendant 'religious' meaning of life?.....that are caught in the symbol of
that wave....riding that wave aka Death's Doorsill: 

doorsill, doorstep, threshold - the sill of a door; a horizontal piece of wood or .... to be at death's door → an der Schwelle des Todes stehen (geh); ...

Living in the moment, all of one's self in the act, in every second, with the possibility---reality---of death always....Who needs Heidegger with Pynchon finding these packed-full symbols?

"For the last few weeks now, St. Flip of Lawndale, for whom Jesus Christ was not only personal savior but surfing consultant as well, who rode an old-school redwood plank" ... 



--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Paul Nightingale <isread at btinternet.com> wrote:

> From: Paul Nightingale <isread at btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: IVIV20: They both knew, 356-359
> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 1:59 PM
> I have taken the view that IV asks us
> to consider what is under the beach.
> There is no final text, no closure possible, and that is
> what Joseph refers
> to. However, Mark draws attention to the passage in
> question, Doc recalling
> Bigfoot providing the beach beneath the paving-stones. We
> are reminded of
> Bigfoot's departure on 350 and Doc's reading of his
> modernist quest for the
> truth, ie closure.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org
> [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org]
> On Behalf
> Of Joseph Tracy
> Sent: 18 January 2010 16:23
> To: pynchon -l
> Subject: Re: IVIV20: They both knew, 356-359
> 
> So under the paving stones the beach, and under the beach
> the graves  
> of the native inhabitants , portals to the spirit world and
> under  
> that another more ancient dream, home of the biggest
> waves.
> On Jan 18, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Mark Kohut wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: Re: IVIV20: They both knew, 356-359
> >> To: "Paul Nightingale" <isread at btinternet.com>
> >> Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 9:03 AM
> >> and in which we learn what is under
> >> the beach: Graveyards of native Americans which
> they
> >> believed were portals to the spirit world. Gordita
> Beach is
> >> built on one...........
> >>
> 
> 
>