IVIV Preserved/Golden Fang

[Mark Kohut]

Just a minor reminder: TRP uses the word 'soul' twice around the discussions of The Preserved....90-92 AND when he said it's soul
was gone later..........................................

Pretty possibly Jungian to me..........

--- On Sun, 1/24/10, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: IVIV Preserved/Golden Fang
> To: dougmillison at comcast.net
> Cc: "pynchon-l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>, "Mark Kohut" <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 2:23 PM
> > It's probably worth going back
> to re-read the ship stuff in the rest of P's books, esp.
> M&D and GR, and see how IV's ship fits in.
> 
> Don't forget AtD. I think Kit's experiences on the water
> might account
> for something, too. And how about Reef in the tunnels and
> all those
> water demons, and the hydrophiles, and such? But, I harp an
> old chord,
> in M&D  P uses the inherent vice law in reference
> to transporting
> Franklin's armonium. How about its hypnotically harmonious
> sounds? The
> boats carry the cargo. "Every sailor asks the questions
> about the
> cargo he is carrying," says Lanois. The conscious mind
> informs.
> 
> What about soul? Does that enter into the question? It
> certainly does
> in Jung. It is one of the significant points over which
> Jung, the
> mystic, diverged with Freud, the atheist. Jung posits much
> more in the
> idea of libido than does Freud.
> 
> Whatever. I'm likely barking up a naked tree when I
> emphasize the
> psychoanalytic in this.... The historic aspect of the
> imagery is
> likewise imperative.
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:50 AM,  <dougmillison at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > If the ocean represents the Unconscious, seems
> appropriate that a ship on its surface could be freighted
> with Mark's aptly described cargo from the past. Extending
> the metaphor a reader might see humans managing to skate
> across the face of ocean deep and dark even as we are doomed
> to sink eventually because of the weight of the past
> pressing relentlessly against structural flaws.
> >
> > It's probably worth going back to re-read the ship
> stuff in the rest of P's books, esp. M&D and GR, and see
> how IV's ship fits in.
> >
> > Mark the K:
> > I think it is a nice internal metaphor for the cargo
> from the past, from the "unconscious", from values before
> most (modern) nation-state wars...
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "liber enim librum aperit."
>