V2nd, C3

[Mark Kohut]

Eliot fer sure....part of just-about every English curriculum at good schools 
like Cornell then.
Nobel......Tradition and the Individual talent allowed ALL writers 
room....................he
with Pound invented poetic modernism..............

Gibbs, scientist re maxwell's demon and more is in the Education
As is a book called Concepts of Modern Science by one Judge Stallo. 
Know nuthin either way about hermetic science in them.................

a kind of scientist-philosopher named Burtt had been at Cornell who had
written a book on The Origins of Modern Science which was around as
a paperback even unto my early bookselling years.............



----- Original Message ----
From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
To: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 2:24:53 PM
Subject: Re: V2nd, C3

Cool. Could there be any there allusive depth to this? I am assuming
that at this time in his life, P had not yet read Jung's works on
alchemy, where yellow figures prominently as a color associated with
change. How about Eliot? Any hints he may have had some knowledge of
the history of science that might include hermetic works?

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:50 PM, alice wellintown
<alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
> We shoiuld not underestimate the obvious influences here; the American
> cannon: as Monroe pointed out, P read Poe's short stories and Poe's
> only novel. These are important to his early works. Hemingway rain
> that brings not birth or spring or new life but only death, Eliot's
> yellow fingers, yellow shades, yellow fog..wasteland and Fitzgerald's
> valley of ashes, and if we read Europeans, it is not Joyce or even
> Dickens, not Fielding or Cervantes for the Picaro, but Conrad.
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> gathering. Why are the clouds yellow if it is a rainstorm? Anyone
>>> familiar with that part of the world (beyond a Baedeker-awareness, I
>>> mean)? The storm in slithers in on soundless wind,
>>
>> Eliot and Hemingway.
>>
>>
>> yes:
>> T. S. Eliot - 2005 - Poetry - 80 pages
>> The yellow fog that rubs its back upon the window- panes, The yellow smoke 
>that
>> rubs its muzzle on the window- panes, Licked its tongue into the corners of 
>...
>> books.google.com/books?isbn=1420925784...
>>
>>
>> Fog was gray-white where I was this morn.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



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